Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election
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@mik said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
Larry is who he is, unapologetically. He has been absolutely consistent through the 15+ years I have known him. He's not in any way shape or form a nutcase.
It is not good to think that anyone who comes to different conclusions than you do is crazy. They may be right or they may prove wrong but that remains to be seen.
Haha, is that how you see this? Disagree with Larry, and he says:
- you're "uninformed",
- you remind him of the old saying "Some people have 20 years worth of experience. Some have 1 year of experience 20 times.",
- you haven't learned how to think rationally,
- you haven't taken the time to study the situation,
- you're shoving your head up your ass,
- you're disingenuous and closed minded,
- you're intellectually dishonest,
- you have no integrity,
- you're simply repeating the media spin,
- he doesn't give a fuck what you think...
This comes from this thread only, took less than 2 minutes to extract it. Want more? Just open a few other threads here.
Most of this was directed at Xenon, who is one of the posters here who shows a lot of patience and restraint when it comes to trying to have a rational discussion with Larry.
That's fine though, most of us have come to know Larry over the years and no longer care about the shit he throws at your head when you dare to disagree with him.
But no, it's not because he comes to a different conclusion that some say he is going a little crazy over this election fraud stuff. If that were all it took, I for one would have called him crazy a long time ago...
As has been pointed out, no president in our lifetimes has ever faced the tsunami of lies, machinations and misrepresentations as Trump has over the last four years. It is hardly crazy to believe the democrats who have been behind these efforts would cheat if they could.
That in itself is not crazy. I'd go further than that and say that it's not crazy to think it could potentially happen at a scale that could really have an impact on an election (same goes for the Republicans). Politics is a dirty game, always has been. Regardless, that it would have happened at a scale leading to a stolen election is still an extraordinary claim, and as someone once rightly said: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
There is some stuff out there that - if true - could at least be a part of such extraordinary evidence. If a truck driver drove 288.000 completed ballots from New York to PA... Well, if that doesn't make you raise an eyebrow, what would? If according to a statistician's findings the chance that Biden won GA, MI, PA and WI the way he did is only "one in a quadrillion", that's worth looking into, right?
So some of us looked into it (the raw materials, not the media's interpretation) and found that the statistics and/or evidence behind those claims don't hold up under even a limited amount of scrutiny. None of that means Larry is somehow crazy for initially posting them. To me it just shows he never really looked at what's behind these claims but instead just eagerly took and reposted them as facts because they support the election fraud narrative and especially because of their potentially high impact. I have no problem with that either. I also don't have a problem with the fact that Larry then went completely silent on the truck driver case and the quadrillion statistic. That shows to me he eventually did take a closer look at those cases and came to the same conclusion. But when you're posting such stuff without properly scrutinizing it, it makes you look a bit silly when accusing the others in the discussion of not taking the time to study the situation, being closed-minded, etc. And when, despite the evidence for massive fraud falling short repeatedly, you keep shouting "BIDEN DID NOT WIN THE ELECTION" whenever someone suggests that he did, that's making you look a bit crazy after a while.
@nunatax said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@mik said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
Larry is who he is, unapologetically. He has been absolutely consistent through the 15+ years I have known him. He's not in any way shape or form a nutcase.
It is not good to think that anyone who comes to different conclusions than you do is crazy. They may be right or they may prove wrong but that remains to be seen.
Haha, is that how you see this? Disagree with Larry, and he says:
- you're "uninformed",
- you remind him of the old saying "Some people have 20 years worth of experience. Some have 1 year of experience 20 times.",
- you haven't learned how to think rationally,
- you haven't taken the time to study the situation,
- you're shoving your head up your ass,
- you're disingenuous and closed minded,
- you're intellectually dishonest,
- you have no integrity,
- you're simply repeating the media spin,
- he doesn't give a fuck what you think...
This comes from this thread only, took less than 2 minutes to extract it. Want more? Just open a few other threads here.
Most of this was directed at Xenon, who is one of the posters here who shows a lot of patience and restraint when it comes to trying to have a rational discussion with Larry.
That's fine though, most of us have come to know Larry over the years and no longer care about the shit he throws at your head when you dare to disagree with him.
But no, it's not because he comes to a different conclusion that some say he is going a little crazy over this election fraud stuff. If that were all it took, I for one would have called him crazy a long time ago...
As has been pointed out, no president in our lifetimes has ever faced the tsunami of lies, machinations and misrepresentations as Trump has over the last four years. It is hardly crazy to believe the democrats who have been behind these efforts would cheat if they could.
That in itself is not crazy. I'd go further than that and say that it's not crazy to think it could potentially happen at a scale that could really have an impact on an election (same goes for the Republicans). Politics is a dirty game, always has been. Regardless, that it would have happened at a scale leading to a stolen election is still an extraordinary claim, and as someone once rightly said: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
There is some stuff out there that - if true - could at least be a part of such extraordinary evidence. If a truck driver drove 288.000 completed ballots from New York to PA... Well, if that doesn't make you raise an eyebrow, what would? If according to a statistician's findings the chance that Biden won GA, MI, PA and WI the way he did is only "one in a quadrillion", that's worth looking into, right?
So some of us looked into it (the raw materials, not the media's interpretation) and found that the statistics and/or evidence behind those claims don't hold up under even a limited amount of scrutiny. None of that means Larry is somehow crazy for initially posting them. To me it just shows he never really looked at what's behind these claims but instead just eagerly took and reposted them as facts because they support the election fraud narrative and especially because of their potentially high impact. I have no problem with that either. I also don't have a problem with the fact that Larry then went completely silent on the truck driver case and the quadrillion statistic. That shows to me he eventually did take a closer look at those cases and came to the same conclusion. But when you're posting such stuff without properly scrutinizing it, it makes you look a bit silly when accusing the others in the discussion of not taking the time to study the situation, being closed-minded, etc. And when, despite the evidence for massive fraud falling short repeatedly, you keep shouting "BIDEN DID NOT WIN THE ELECTION" whenever someone suggests that he did, that's making you look a bit crazy after a while.
I commend the number of words in this post. Commend, that is. Not read.
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@renauda said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
Sounds like they understand they are dealing with a petulant toddler.
An interesting toddler, who ain't going away. Biden cannot physically hold up and will falter. I don't see how the economy can keep from going in the dumper.
And 2024 is just a few years away...
@jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
An interesting toddler, who ain't going away.
No, he'll go away but the rural and working class populism he has exploited will stay on. In fact, I am certain it will return albeit with a far more competent leadership.
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@jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
An interesting toddler, who ain't going away.
No, he'll go away but the rural and working class populism he has exploited will stay on. In fact, I am certain it will return albeit with a far more competent leadership.
@renauda said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
An interesting toddler, who ain't going away.
No, he'll go away but the rural and working class populism he has exploited will stay on. In fact, I am certain it will return albeit with a far more competent leadership.
I think you underestimate him.
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@renauda said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
An interesting toddler, who ain't going away.
No, he'll go away but the rural and working class populism he has exploited will stay on. In fact, I am certain it will return albeit with a far more competent leadership.
I think you underestimate him.
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@renauda said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jolly And I think you overestimate him.
Yes, so did Hilary.
@jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@renauda said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jolly And I think you overestimate him.
Yes, so did Hilary.
Guess Biden didn't
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@larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@taiwan_girl said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@nunatax said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
. If a truck driver drove 288.000 completed ballots from New York to PA... Well, if that doesn't make you raise an eyebrow, what would?
I actually read the affidavit. The truck driver when asked about how many ballots there were says something like, “it could have been 750 or even 2500, I’m not sure”
But then again, he is a drug addict with mental problems, and even according to his mom, he needs some help.
... do you take the time to investigate it ... or do you roll over the top of them, call them names ...?
My irony meter just exploded.
@nunatax said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@taiwan_girl said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@nunatax said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
. If a truck driver drove 288.000 completed ballots from New York to PA... Well, if that doesn't make you raise an eyebrow, what would?
I actually read the affidavit. The truck driver when asked about how many ballots there were says something like, “it could have been 750 or even 2500, I’m not sure”
But then again, he is a drug addict with mental problems, and even according to his mom, he needs some help.
... do you take the time to investigate it ... or do you roll over the top of them, call them names ...?
My irony meter just exploded.
If you assume Larry is talking to himself suddenly a lot of what he writes makes a lot more sense.
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@jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@renauda said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jolly And I think you overestimate him.
Yes, so did Hilary.
Guess Biden didn't
@moonbat said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@renauda said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jolly And I think you overestimate him.
Yes, so did Hilary.
Guess Biden didn't
So many people on the left talk about the fly-over rubes who form the base of Trump while never, ever, commenting on the violent mobs of lower class poor hopeless people who give them the voting edge in election after election. Their crop. Own that destruction of humanity, you useless sociopaths and/or ignoramuses. At least the fly-over rubes are born to a world of opportunity. That's more than can be said of your crop. Own it.
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@jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't think Biden won the election fairly. Too many anomalies. Too many votes totals that changed markedly at 0300. Too much media cover-up. Too much manipulation of Biden coverage to always paint him in the best light possible. Too much negative Trump coverage, even if coverage had to be twisted or outright lies.
And I figure there's fifty million voters just like me.
I guess that's a lot of people Sock won't have to drink beer with...
And there's another thing that is consistent here, the good old lap dog always comes to his corner, no matter what the topic or reason. That's ok Jolly, missing out on beers with assholes is not missing a thing.
@nobodyssock said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't think Biden won the election fairly. Too many anomalies. Too many votes totals that changed markedly at 0300. Too much media cover-up. Too much manipulation of Biden coverage to always paint him in the best light possible. Too much negative Trump coverage, even if coverage had to be twisted or outright lies.
And I figure there's fifty million voters just like me.
I guess that's a lot of people Sock won't have to drink beer with...
And there's another thing that is consistent here, the good old lap dog always comes to his corner, no matter what the topic or reason. That's ok Jolly, missing out on beers with assholes is not missing a thing.
Well, if you have a problem with how things are here, quit fucking coming here.
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Notice it's the ones who don't even live in America ganging up? Well, Sock is from California, but that's not America either...
They all have another thing in common too.... they're all cunts.
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Notice it's the ones who don't even live in America ganging up? Well, Sock is from California, but that's not America either...
They all have another thing in common too.... they're all cunts.
@larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
Notice it's the ones who don't even live in America ganging up? Well, Sock is from California, but that's not America either...
They all have another thing in common too.... they're all cunts.
CA has a lot of rural elements to it but the population centers are filled with programmed leftist robots entirely convinced of their own righteous superiority. Decent people will be leaving, especially after the inevitable tax increases. I had been thinking of buying another upscale house here, but no, I will not spend the rest of my life surrounded by imbeciles.
Education is extremely important.
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@jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@renauda said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jolly And I think you overestimate him.
Yes, so did Hilary.
Guess Biden didn't
@moonbat said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@renauda said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jolly And I think you overestimate him.
Yes, so did Hilary.
Guess Biden didn't
No, he didnt.
He made sure he got more votes.
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Notice it's the ones who don't even live in America ganging up? Well, Sock is from California, but that's not America either...
They all have another thing in common too.... they're all cunts.
Quote = "Notice it's the ones who don't even live in America ganging up?"
Possibly but kindly understand, that many like me are just unenfranchised stakeholders in what goes on in US politics. Like it or not the world is still very much under the sway of pax americana. As a former Prime Minister of Canada described living next door to the US:
Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.
So for us let's just say the past four years have been anything but even tempered.
Elbows up!
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We could always just annex y'all and get it over with...
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A better deal might be to allow some of the more civilised bits to be annexed by Canada.
I was only joking
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@larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
Notice it's the ones who don't even live in America ganging up? Well, Sock is from California, but that's not America either...
They all have another thing in common too.... they're all cunts.
CA has a lot of rural elements to it but the population centers are filled with programmed leftist robots entirely convinced of their own righteous superiority. Decent people will be leaving, especially after the inevitable tax increases. I had been thinking of buying another upscale house here, but no, I will not spend the rest of my life surrounded by imbeciles.
@horace said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
Notice it's the ones who don't even live in America ganging up? Well, Sock is from California, but that's not America either...
They all have another thing in common too.... they're all cunts.
CA has a lot of rural elements to it but the population centers are filled with programmed leftist robots entirely convinced of their own righteous superiority. Decent people will be leaving, especially after the inevitable tax increases. I had been thinking of buying another upscale house here, but no, I will not spend the rest of my life surrounded by imbeciles.
Lol
I forgot you lived in california.. I was of course referring to those programmed leftist robot embeciles, not rational people like yourself.
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He loves it here. We're a lovable bunch. I can't blame him. But the love and respect is probably not mutual. Hey, in every relationship, there exists one side who likes the other side more.
@horace said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
He loves it here. We're a lovable bunch. I can't blame him. But the love and respect is probably not mutual. Hey, in every relationship, there exists one side who likes the other side more.
Well... we know how good he is at handling relationships......
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Quote = "Notice it's the ones who don't even live in America ganging up?"
Possibly but kindly understand, that many like me are just unenfranchised stakeholders in what goes on in US politics. Like it or not the world is still very much under the sway of pax americana. As a former Prime Minister of Canada described living next door to the US:
Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.
So for us let's just say the past four years have been anything but even tempered.
@renauda said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
Quote = "Notice it's the ones who don't even live in America ganging up?"
Possibly but kindly understand, that many like me are just unenfranchised stakeholders in what goes on in US politics. Like it or not the world is still very much under the sway of pax americana. As a former Prime Minister of Canada described living next door to the US:
Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.
So for us let's just say the past four years have been anything but even tempered.
I went to Canada once. I wouldn't go back there if you gave me the jet plane I got there in.
