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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    Grievance tweeting.

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    @jon-nyc said in What a way to spend Christmas:

    Grievance tweeting.

    The replies to the tweet are quite revealing to what Twitter has enabled in the American psyche. Makes the original tweet look pristine.

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      At the end of the day, he's right. She has a good sense of fashion and elegance, moreso than her husband. In fact, not since Jackie has the White House seen such a sense of style.

      First Ladies and the Christmas season usually generate multiple stories and mag covers. Ms. Trump, not as much.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        At the end of the day, he's right. She has a good sense of fashion and elegance, moreso than her husband. In fact, not since Jackie has the White House seen such a sense of style.

        First Ladies and the Christmas season usually generate multiple stories and mag covers. Ms. Trump, not as much.

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        @jolly said in What a way to spend Christmas:

        At the end of the day, he's right. She has a good sense of fashion and elegance, moreso than her husband. In fact, not since Jackie has the White House seen such a sense of style.

        First Ladies and the Christmas season usually generate multiple stories and mag covers. Ms. Trump, not as much.

        A cover story typically goes with an interview. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a Melania interview in any context.

        Also, fashion magazines are not a government-sanctioned meritocracy or something. Do the readers of high-fashion magazines want Melania Trump stories?

        The bigger problem here is that Trump is a man-child.

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          Yes, of course that is the bigger problem

          The man-child thing

          He is a man-child

          That is how he built his business, by being a man-child

          That is how he became president of the United States, he is a man-child

          That is all he is, a man-child

          That is the problem, the man-child

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          • CopperC Copper

            Yes, of course that is the bigger problem

            The man-child thing

            He is a man-child

            That is how he built his business, by being a man-child

            That is how he became president of the United States, he is a man-child

            That is all he is, a man-child

            That is the problem, the man-child

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            @copper said in What a way to spend Christmas:

            Yes, of course that is the bigger problem

            The man-child thing

            He is a man-child

            That is how he built his business, by being a man-child

            That is how he became president of the United States, he is a man-child

            That is all he is, a man-child

            That is the problem, the man-child

            So being POTUS and having money absolve you of character flaws, or mean you can’t have character flaws?

            Trump is a whiny, small man. Having money doesn’t change that.

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              Why do you think having money absolves you of character flaws?

              Having money is one thing.

              Having consistent spectacular success in multiple fields certainly lowers the likelihood of being a man-child.

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              • CopperC Copper

                Why do you think having money absolves you of character flaws?

                Having money is one thing.

                Having consistent spectacular success in multiple fields certainly lowers the likelihood of being a man-child.

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                @copper said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                Having consistent spectacular success in multiple fields certainly lowers the likelihood of being a man-child.

                Yet, here we are.

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                  He is clearly an extraordinary human, and indeed an extraordinary winner. He is showing some of his most ridiculous traits these days, post-loss. But the fact that he is an extraordinary winner is a necessary ingredient of the hatred he's been targeted by.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    He is clearly an extraordinary human, and indeed an extraordinary winner. He is showing some of his most ridiculous traits these days, post-loss. But the fact that he is an extraordinary winner is a necessary ingredient of the hatred he's been targeted by.

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                    @horace said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                    He is clearly an extraordinary human, and indeed an extraordinary winner. He is showing some of his most ridiculous traits these days, post-loss. But the fact that he is an extraordinary winner is a necessary ingredient of the hatred he's been targeted by.

                    You call them “most ridiculous traits”, I call it being a man-child.

                    On his winning streak. In terms of money, power and influence - he’s been insanely successful.

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                      @horace said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                      He is clearly an extraordinary human, and indeed an extraordinary winner. He is showing some of his most ridiculous traits these days, post-loss. But the fact that he is an extraordinary winner is a necessary ingredient of the hatred he's been targeted by.

                      You call them “most ridiculous traits”, I call it being a man-child.

                      On his winning streak. In terms of money, power and influence - he’s been insanely successful.

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                      @xenon I choose ridiculous intentionally. In that it leaves him open to public ridicule. I mean even more than he has been. He has intentionally engineered a personality immune from ridicule.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        @xenon I choose ridiculous intentionally. In that it leaves him open to public ridicule. I mean even more than he has been. He has intentionally engineered a personality immune from ridicule.

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                        @horace said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                        @xenon I choose ridiculous intentionally. In that it leaves him open to public ridicule. I mean even more than he has been. He has intentionally engineered a personality immune from ridicule.

                        Well - ridicule typically follows actions that warrant ridicule. (Say for example a man acting like a child)

                        To what extent he engineered the personality, I don’t know. Maybe, he was already purpose-built for the moment.

                        But again, I’ll agree. His shamelessness is his greatest superpower.

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                          @horace said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                          @xenon I choose ridiculous intentionally. In that it leaves him open to public ridicule. I mean even more than he has been. He has intentionally engineered a personality immune from ridicule.

                          Well - ridicule typically follows actions that warrant ridicule. (Say for example a man acting like a child)

                          To what extent he engineered the personality, I don’t know. Maybe, he was already purpose-built for the moment.

                          But again, I’ll agree. His shamelessness is his greatest superpower.

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                          @xenon There are plenty of shameless people in the world. Pick a better superpower.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            @horace said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                            Pick a better superpower.

                            I wish he would. But then, he wouldn’t be him.

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                              @horace said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                              Pick a better superpower.

                              I wish he would. But then, he wouldn’t be him.

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                              @xenon said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                              @horace said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                              Pick a better superpower.

                              I wish he would. But then, he wouldn’t be him.

                              It goes none of the way towards an explanation of why he wins. I think in more unbiased contexts, we would all say that politicians are shameless as a species.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                @xenon said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                @horace said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                Pick a better superpower.

                                I wish he would. But then, he wouldn’t be him.

                                It goes none of the way towards an explanation of why he wins. I think in more unbiased contexts, we would all say that politicians are shameless as a species.

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                                @horace said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                @xenon said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                @horace said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                Pick a better superpower.

                                I wish he would. But then, he wouldn’t be him.

                                It goes none of the way towards an explanation of why he wins. I think in more unbiased contexts, we would all say that politicians are shameless as a species.

                                Trump wins in politics because he’s an effective fighter on some key culture war topics (immigration, the relative devaluing of American labor, patriotism, etc.). He’s not winning because of policy.

                                And on shamelessness (being petulant, being consistent with your self, etc.) - he’s in a different galaxy than other politicians. This is the extraordinary part about him. I can picture other people being effective and winning with a similar, clear posture on culture. What makes Trump unique is his shamelessness. I don’t see that being replicated. That’s why I called it a superpower.

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                                  @horace said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                  @xenon said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                  @horace said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                  Pick a better superpower.

                                  I wish he would. But then, he wouldn’t be him.

                                  It goes none of the way towards an explanation of why he wins. I think in more unbiased contexts, we would all say that politicians are shameless as a species.

                                  Trump wins in politics because he’s an effective fighter on some key culture war topics (immigration, the relative devaluing of American labor, patriotism, etc.). He’s not winning because of policy.

                                  And on shamelessness (being petulant, being consistent with your self, etc.) - he’s in a different galaxy than other politicians. This is the extraordinary part about him. I can picture other people being effective and winning with a similar, clear posture on culture. What makes Trump unique is his shamelessness. I don’t see that being replicated. That’s why I called it a superpower.

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                                  @xenon said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                  @horace said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                  @xenon said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                  @horace said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                  Pick a better superpower.

                                  I wish he would. But then, he wouldn’t be him.

                                  It goes none of the way towards an explanation of why he wins. I think in more unbiased contexts, we would all say that politicians are shameless as a species.

                                  Trump wins in politics because he’s an effective fighter on some key culture war topics (immigration, the relative devaluing of American labor, etc.). He’s not winning because of policy.

                                  And on shamelessness (being petulant, being consistent with your self, etc.) - he’s in a different galaxy than other politicians.

                                  But it’s a feature, not a bug with him. Because he’s a culture fighter.

                                  He carved out an individual space for himself in the long standing MSM left-leaning culture which almost everybody understood, and liked or disliked to their own individual taste. Against that backdrop, shamelessness is an inevitability. Shame is the weapon pop culture weilds against iconoclasts like Trump. So you witnessed someone with a strength in that area, but the degree to which he weilded it was in keeping with the strength of the attacks he had to withstand. What he had was empathy for the 10s of millions of people who, along with the rest of the country, understood the MSM narrative against the right, and didn't like it much. It was an unspoken truth, carefully shamed away by those who liked that bias. He noticed it, it did indeed have something to do with empathy, and strategic awareness, and he used it to become the most powerful person in the world. Even post loss, he will occupy minds of his haters forever.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    @horace said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                    @xenon said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                    @horace said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                    Pick a better superpower.

                                    I wish he would. But then, he wouldn’t be him.

                                    It goes none of the way towards an explanation of why he wins. I think in more unbiased contexts, we would all say that politicians are shameless as a species.

                                    Trump wins in politics because he’s an effective fighter on some key culture war topics (immigration, the relative devaluing of American labor, patriotism, etc.). He’s not winning because of policy.

                                    And on shamelessness (being petulant, being consistent with your self, etc.) - he’s in a different galaxy than other politicians. This is the extraordinary part about him. I can picture other people being effective and winning with a similar, clear posture on culture. What makes Trump unique is his shamelessness. I don’t see that being replicated. That’s why I called it a superpower.

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                                    @xenon said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                    What makes Trump unique is his shamelessness.

                                    Are we still talking about politicians?

                                    Are you saying that there are no other shameless politicians?

                                    He is unique.

                                    I think man-child might not be the only vocabulary problem. Maybe you should look up the word unique.

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                                      @xenon said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                      @horace said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                      @xenon said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                      @horace said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                      Pick a better superpower.

                                      I wish he would. But then, he wouldn’t be him.

                                      It goes none of the way towards an explanation of why he wins. I think in more unbiased contexts, we would all say that politicians are shameless as a species.

                                      Trump wins in politics because he’s an effective fighter on some key culture war topics (immigration, the relative devaluing of American labor, etc.). He’s not winning because of policy.

                                      And on shamelessness (being petulant, being consistent with your self, etc.) - he’s in a different galaxy than other politicians.

                                      But it’s a feature, not a bug with him. Because he’s a culture fighter.

                                      He carved out an individual space for himself in the long standing MSM left-leaning culture which almost everybody understood, and liked or disliked to their own individual taste. Against that backdrop, shamelessness is an inevitability. Shame is the weapon pop culture weilds against iconoclasts like Trump. So you witnessed someone with a strength in that area, but the degree to which he weilded it was in keeping with the strength of the attacks he had to withstand. What he had was empathy for the 10s of millions of people who, along with the rest of the country, understood the MSM narrative against the right, and didn't like it much. It was an unspoken truth, carefully shamed away by those who liked that bias. He noticed it, it did indeed have something to do with empathy, and strategic awareness, and he used it to become the most powerful person in the world. Even post loss, he will occupy minds of his haters forever.

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                                      @horace said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                      @xenon said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                      @horace said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                      @xenon said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                      @horace said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                      Pick a better superpower.

                                      I wish he would. But then, he wouldn’t be him.

                                      It goes none of the way towards an explanation of why he wins. I think in more unbiased contexts, we would all say that politicians are shameless as a species.

                                      Trump wins in politics because he’s an effective fighter on some key culture war topics (immigration, the relative devaluing of American labor, etc.). He’s not winning because of policy.

                                      And on shamelessness (being petulant, being consistent with your self, etc.) - he’s in a different galaxy than other politicians.

                                      But it’s a feature, not a bug with him. Because he’s a culture fighter.

                                      He carved out an individual space for himself in the long standing MSM left-leaning culture which almost everybody understood, and liked or disliked to their own individual taste. Against that backdrop, shamelessness is an inevitability. Shame is the weapon pop culture weilds against iconoclasts like Trump. So you witnessed someone with a strength in that area, but the degree to which he weilded it was in keeping with the strength of the attacks he had to withstand. What he had was empathy for the 10s of millions of people who, along with the rest of the country, understood the MSM narrative against the right, and didn't like it much. It was an unspoken truth, carefully shamed away by those who liked that bias. He noticed it, it did indeed have something to do with empathy, and strategic awareness, and he used it to become the most powerful person in the world. Even post loss, he will occupy minds of his haters forever.

                                      Our entire culture is shameless and often proud of it, believing it is justified. What’s shameless is calling out one person as shameless.

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                                        @copper said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                        Yes, of course that is the bigger problem

                                        The man-child thing

                                        He is a man-child

                                        That is how he built his business, by being a man-child

                                        That is how he became president of the United States, he is a man-child

                                        That is all he is, a man-child

                                        That is the problem, the man-child

                                        So being POTUS and having money absolve you of character flaws, or mean you can’t have character flaws?

                                        Trump is a whiny, small man. Having money doesn’t change that.

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                                        @xenon said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                        @copper said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                        Yes, of course that is the bigger problem

                                        The man-child thing

                                        He is a man-child

                                        That is how he built his business, by being a man-child

                                        That is how he became president of the United States, he is a man-child

                                        That is all he is, a man-child

                                        That is the problem, the man-child

                                        So being POTUS and having money absolve you of character flaws, or mean you can’t have character flaws?

                                        Trump is a whiny, small man. Having money doesn’t change that.

                                        A "whiny, small man"......

                                        Jesus.

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                                          @xenon said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                          @copper said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                          Yes, of course that is the bigger problem

                                          The man-child thing

                                          He is a man-child

                                          That is how he built his business, by being a man-child

                                          That is how he became president of the United States, he is a man-child

                                          That is all he is, a man-child

                                          That is the problem, the man-child

                                          So being POTUS and having money absolve you of character flaws, or mean you can’t have character flaws?

                                          Trump is a whiny, small man. Having money doesn’t change that.

                                          A "whiny, small man"......

                                          Jesus.

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                                          @larry said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                          @xenon said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                          @copper said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                          Yes, of course that is the bigger problem

                                          The man-child thing

                                          He is a man-child

                                          That is how he built his business, by being a man-child

                                          That is how he became president of the United States, he is a man-child

                                          That is all he is, a man-child

                                          That is the problem, the man-child

                                          So being POTUS and having money absolve you of character flaws, or mean you can’t have character flaws?

                                          Trump is a whiny, small man. Having money doesn’t change that.

                                          A "whiny, small man"......

                                          Jesus.

                                          Oh you’re right. He’s a magnanimous man who lets irrelevant slights roll off his back. He doesn’t do anything that’s beneath the office he holds.

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