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  • KlausK Klaus

    This tweet made me look up a few other more recent Trump tweets.

    This recent one stuck out to me as being exemplary for how Trump accumulates knowledge.

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    jon-nyc
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    @klaus said in What a way to spend Christmas:

    This recent one stuck out to me as being exemplary for how Trump accumulates knowledge confirmation bias.

    Fixed it for you.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      @jon-nyc said in What a way to spend Christmas:

      Know what he didn’t say anything about? The bomb that went off in a major American city. No statement, no tweet.

      Did Joe mention anything about the Critical Race theory trial?

      Yes, this is whataboutism, because you and I can both agree with your first point and move past it.

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      @aqua-letifer said in What a way to spend Christmas:

      @jon-nyc said in What a way to spend Christmas:

      Know what he didn’t say anything about? The bomb that went off in a major American city. No statement, no tweet.

      Did Joe mention anything about the Critical Race theory trial?

      Yes, this is whataboutism, because you and I can both agree with your first point and move past it.

      The problem is Trump did make a statement about Nashville that very morning. It's Jon's own confirmation bias.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        @aqua-letifer said in What a way to spend Christmas:

        @jon-nyc said in What a way to spend Christmas:

        Know what he didn’t say anything about? The bomb that went off in a major American city. No statement, no tweet.

        Did Joe mention anything about the Critical Race theory trial?

        Yes, this is whataboutism, because you and I can both agree with your first point and move past it.

        The problem is Trump did make a statement about Nashville that very morning. It's Jon's own confirmation bias.

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        @mik said in What a way to spend Christmas:

        The problem is Trump did make a statement about Nashville that very morning. It's Jon's own confirmation bias.

        Sure but the overall point I think is sound. Trump's decisions on what he's going to mention on the Twitters and what he's not is embarrassing.

        My point is that there can be worse things than having a petulant child in the White House. The Nashville bombing is a national event that affects nearly no one in a personal way.

        Please love yourself.

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          Considering I do not think he should be on Twitter at all, I'd have to disagree. But yeah, there can be a lot worse things.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @mik said in What a way to spend Christmas:

            The problem is Trump did make a statement about Nashville that very morning. It's Jon's own confirmation bias.

            Sure but the overall point I think is sound. Trump's decisions on what he's going to mention on the Twitters and what he's not is embarrassing.

            My point is that there can be worse things than having a petulant child in the White House. The Nashville bombing is a national event that affects nearly no one in a personal way.

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            Copper
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            @aqua-letifer said in What a way to spend Christmas:

            Sure but the overall point I think is sound.

            Yes, the point is sound, without question.

            The point is that you can say whatever you want about Mr. Trump and it becomes truth.

            Go ahead, try it.

            Say he didn't do something, anything.

            Someone will chime in, agreeing that he is a petulant child because of something you made up.

            Really.

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              Larry
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              It's a shame that we are living in a time when the Left/democrats are finally beginning to realize their goal of total control and the end of our constitution. It's a shame the average democrat out there only get to see what THE PARTY allows them to see. If we still lived in a free country where information is not censored maybe they would have seen some of the numerous positive things Trump has said and done recently.

              But here we are, on a roller coaster ride into totalitarianism, and the TDS sufferers are just happy to be going on a trip.

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              • CopperC Copper

                @aqua-letifer said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                Sure but the overall point I think is sound.

                Yes, the point is sound, without question.

                The point is that you can say whatever you want about Mr. Trump and it becomes truth.

                Go ahead, try it.

                Say he didn't do something, anything.

                Someone will chime in, agreeing that he is a petulant child because of something you made up.

                Really.

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                @copper said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                @aqua-letifer said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                Sure but the overall point I think is sound.

                Yes, the point is sound, without question.

                The point is that you can say whatever you want about Mr. Trump and it becomes truth.

                Go ahead, try it.

                Say he didn't do something, anything.

                Someone will chime in, agreeing that he is a petulant child because of something you made up.

                Really.

                That is EXACTLY what they do.

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                • CopperC Copper

                  @aqua-letifer said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                  Sure but the overall point I think is sound.

                  Yes, the point is sound, without question.

                  The point is that you can say whatever you want about Mr. Trump and it becomes truth.

                  Go ahead, try it.

                  Say he didn't do something, anything.

                  Someone will chime in, agreeing that he is a petulant child because of something you made up.

                  Really.

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  #18

                  @copper said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                  @aqua-letifer said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                  Sure but the overall point I think is sound.

                  Yes, the point is sound, without question.

                  The point is that you can say whatever you want about Mr. Trump and it becomes truth.

                  Go ahead, try it.

                  Say he didn't do something, anything.

                  Someone will chime in, agreeing that he is a petulant child because of something you made up.

                  Really.

                  He's the greatest President since Lincoln.

                  I was only joking

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    @klaus said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                    This recent one stuck out to me as being exemplary for how Trump accumulates knowledge confirmation bias.

                    Fixed it for you.

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                    @jon-nyc said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                    @klaus said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                    This recent one stuck out to me as being exemplary for how Trump accumulates knowledge confirmation bias.

                    Fixed it for you.

                    True, but that's not my main point. Many people suffer from confirmation bias. You can also exhibit confirmation bias in the selection of reputable sources. But a pervasive theme in his communication is this folksy "many friends told me" thing. The thing his friends/military men/aliens/... told him is always of course supporting what he said all along, but my point is that he's seemingly deliberately avoiding any source of information that tries to provide more than anecdotal evidence for something, i.e., something that is based on an acknowledged corpus of data or comes from a reputable source (such as: a collection of experts in a field). Maybe that's part of his anti-elitism shtick?

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                    • KlausK Klaus

                      @jon-nyc said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                      @klaus said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                      This recent one stuck out to me as being exemplary for how Trump accumulates knowledge confirmation bias.

                      Fixed it for you.

                      True, but that's not my main point. Many people suffer from confirmation bias. You can also exhibit confirmation bias in the selection of reputable sources. But a pervasive theme in his communication is this folksy "many friends told me" thing. The thing his friends/military men/aliens/... told him is always of course supporting what he said all along, but my point is that he's seemingly deliberately avoiding any source of information that tries to provide more than anecdotal evidence for something, i.e., something that is based on an acknowledged corpus of data or comes from a reputable source (such as: a collection of experts in a field). Maybe that's part of his anti-elitism shtick?

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                      @klaus said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                      aliens

                      See, Klaus hates Donald Trump and his Winning so much he's saying Trump converses with aliens! Bad Klaus! TDS!

                      TDS!

                      TDS.

                      It's so obviously TDS.

                      Please love yourself.

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                        Actually, I suffer from both TDS and Anti-TDS simultaneously. It's pretty bad.

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Grievance tweeting.

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                          @jon-nyc said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                          Grievance tweeting.

                          The replies to the tweet are quite revealing to what Twitter has enabled in the American psyche. Makes the original tweet look pristine.

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                            Jolly
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                            At the end of the day, he's right. She has a good sense of fashion and elegance, moreso than her husband. In fact, not since Jackie has the White House seen such a sense of style.

                            First Ladies and the Christmas season usually generate multiple stories and mag covers. Ms. Trump, not as much.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              At the end of the day, he's right. She has a good sense of fashion and elegance, moreso than her husband. In fact, not since Jackie has the White House seen such a sense of style.

                              First Ladies and the Christmas season usually generate multiple stories and mag covers. Ms. Trump, not as much.

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                              xenon
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                              @jolly said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                              At the end of the day, he's right. She has a good sense of fashion and elegance, moreso than her husband. In fact, not since Jackie has the White House seen such a sense of style.

                              First Ladies and the Christmas season usually generate multiple stories and mag covers. Ms. Trump, not as much.

                              A cover story typically goes with an interview. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a Melania interview in any context.

                              Also, fashion magazines are not a government-sanctioned meritocracy or something. Do the readers of high-fashion magazines want Melania Trump stories?

                              The bigger problem here is that Trump is a man-child.

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                                Yes, of course that is the bigger problem

                                The man-child thing

                                He is a man-child

                                That is how he built his business, by being a man-child

                                That is how he became president of the United States, he is a man-child

                                That is all he is, a man-child

                                That is the problem, the man-child

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                                • CopperC Copper

                                  Yes, of course that is the bigger problem

                                  The man-child thing

                                  He is a man-child

                                  That is how he built his business, by being a man-child

                                  That is how he became president of the United States, he is a man-child

                                  That is all he is, a man-child

                                  That is the problem, the man-child

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                                  xenon
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                                  @copper said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                  Yes, of course that is the bigger problem

                                  The man-child thing

                                  He is a man-child

                                  That is how he built his business, by being a man-child

                                  That is how he became president of the United States, he is a man-child

                                  That is all he is, a man-child

                                  That is the problem, the man-child

                                  So being POTUS and having money absolve you of character flaws, or mean you can’t have character flaws?

                                  Trump is a whiny, small man. Having money doesn’t change that.

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                                    Why do you think having money absolves you of character flaws?

                                    Having money is one thing.

                                    Having consistent spectacular success in multiple fields certainly lowers the likelihood of being a man-child.

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                                    • CopperC Copper

                                      Why do you think having money absolves you of character flaws?

                                      Having money is one thing.

                                      Having consistent spectacular success in multiple fields certainly lowers the likelihood of being a man-child.

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                                      xenon
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                                      @copper said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                      Having consistent spectacular success in multiple fields certainly lowers the likelihood of being a man-child.

                                      Yet, here we are.

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                                        He is clearly an extraordinary human, and indeed an extraordinary winner. He is showing some of his most ridiculous traits these days, post-loss. But the fact that he is an extraordinary winner is a necessary ingredient of the hatred he's been targeted by.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          He is clearly an extraordinary human, and indeed an extraordinary winner. He is showing some of his most ridiculous traits these days, post-loss. But the fact that he is an extraordinary winner is a necessary ingredient of the hatred he's been targeted by.

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                                          xenon
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                                          @horace said in What a way to spend Christmas:

                                          He is clearly an extraordinary human, and indeed an extraordinary winner. He is showing some of his most ridiculous traits these days, post-loss. But the fact that he is an extraordinary winner is a necessary ingredient of the hatred he's been targeted by.

                                          You call them “most ridiculous traits”, I call it being a man-child.

                                          On his winning streak. In terms of money, power and influence - he’s been insanely successful.

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