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Another look at excess deaths

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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    The numbers I've seen from other countries certainly don't agree with these. I believe the UK is 15% above average. I don't really see why the US would be any different.

    I was only joking

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      The numbers I've seen from other countries certainly don't agree with these. I believe the UK is 15% above average. I don't really see why the US would be any different.

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      @Doctor-Phibes said in Another look at excess deaths:

      The numbers I've seen from other countries certainly don't agree with these. I believe the UK is 15% above average. I don't really see why the US would be any different.

      https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/death-rate

      ![alt text](f92640dc-1468-423b-980e-f41504db6411-image.png image url)

      https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/GBR/united-kingdom/death-rate

      ![alt text](8397c9af-8dc4-49c2-b111-856bc8e073e1-image.png image url)

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      • George KG Offline
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        The author of the pulled article responds to JHU's action:

        https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/authors-response-closer-look-us-deaths-due-covid-19-yanni-gu/?trackingId=xjBSM9QqTLC4ld5zUbNG0Q%3D%3D

        Today, on November 27th, The News-Letter officially posted their reason for retracting the article, stating inaccuracies in the analysis. I am frustrated at the explanation, and I think it is disrespectful to Dr. Briand’s hard work putting data together and doing an honest analysis. If her analysis was to be contradicted, then at least an equal-level analysis should be done to provide more data and thus a new conclusion. Dr. Briand and her work deserve such respect.

        I have attached the links for the article, The News-Letters’ explanation for taking down the article, and Dr. Genevieve Briand’s event recording down below. Please take a look to get the full message. Thank you very much for everyone’s interest in this matter, and I respect all opinions.

        Article "A Closer Look at U.S. Deaths due to COVID-19": https://web.archive.org/web/20201126163323/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19

        Editors' explanation for the retraction: https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19

        Dr. Genevieve Briand's event video:

        Link to video

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • CopperC Offline
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          #21

          Briand’s study should not be used exclusively in understanding the impact of COVID-19, but should be taken in context with the countless other data...

          Countless?

          Data that can't be counted?

          That's not very good data.

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          • HoraceH Offline
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            data are like assholes, everybody has one. No wait, that's opinions.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • KincaidK Offline
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              I saw that article too and said, WTF?

              Obviously, Dominion software is counting these deaths.

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              • KincaidK Kincaid

                I saw that article too and said, WTF?

                Obviously, Dominion software is counting these deaths.

                taiwan_girlT Offline
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                #24

                @Kincaid 🤣

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                • kluursK Offline
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                  kluurs
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                  #25

                  US deaths to top 3 million - most ever.

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                  • kluursK kluurs

                    US deaths to top 3 million - most ever.

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                    @kluurs said in Another look at excess deaths:

                    US deaths to top 3 million - most ever.

                    I’ve said it before, I want to see the numbers over 3 years, not one...

                    The Brad

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                    • CopperC Offline
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                      #27

                      This is the deadliest year in U.S. history, with deaths expected to top 3 million for the first time —

                      "expected to"

                      So these deaths haven't happened yet

                      due mainly to the coronavirus pandemic.

                      How do we know the cause of these "expected" deaths?

                      They haven't happened, they might not happen.

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