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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    Or “DMS” for short.

    The Jericho March.

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/what-i-saw-at-the-jericho-march/

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    Loki
    wrote on last edited by
    #84

    The media keeps pushing two narratives:

    1. Constitutional and democracy crisis. The threat to our way of life has never been greater. It’s like the nuclear clock has been to 30 seconds before midnight.

    2. Trump is completely melting down and is going to burn everything about his life to the ground.

    Both are utter bullshit. Worse no one will go back and acknowledge what a canard this was.

    We want to talk about “news sources”. Hahahaha haha.

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    • L Loki

      The media keeps pushing two narratives:

      1. Constitutional and democracy crisis. The threat to our way of life has never been greater. It’s like the nuclear clock has been to 30 seconds before midnight.

      2. Trump is completely melting down and is going to burn everything about his life to the ground.

      Both are utter bullshit. Worse no one will go back and acknowledge what a canard this was.

      We want to talk about “news sources”. Hahahaha haha.

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      Moonbat
      wrote on last edited by Moonbat
      #85

      @loki said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

      The media keeps pushing two narratives:

      1. Constitutional and democracy crisis. The threat to our way of life has never been greater. It’s like the nuclear clock has been to 30 seconds before midnight.

      2. Trump is completely melting down and is going to burn everything about his life to the ground.

      Both are utter bullshit. Worse no one will go back and acknowledge what a canard this was.

      We want to talk about “news sources”. Hahahaha haha.

      1 Trying to circumvent an election by inventing fictitious fraud is now an acceptable action. So the damage is done. I suppose if Trump style politics gets exposed for the cancer that it is then perhaps that could be undone but maybe that's wishful thinking.

      2 Toddler in chief is having tantrums and turning on Republicans who aren't publicly buying into his ridiculous conspiracy. I don't know if one can characterise that as burning everything down or not. Maybe not everything just any semblance of dignity.

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      • M Moonbat

        @loki said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

        The media keeps pushing two narratives:

        1. Constitutional and democracy crisis. The threat to our way of life has never been greater. It’s like the nuclear clock has been to 30 seconds before midnight.

        2. Trump is completely melting down and is going to burn everything about his life to the ground.

        Both are utter bullshit. Worse no one will go back and acknowledge what a canard this was.

        We want to talk about “news sources”. Hahahaha haha.

        1 Trying to circumvent an election by inventing fictitious fraud is now an acceptable action. So the damage is done. I suppose if Trump style politics gets exposed for the cancer that it is then perhaps that could be undone but maybe that's wishful thinking.

        2 Toddler in chief is having tantrums and turning on Republicans who aren't publicly buying into his ridiculous conspiracy. I don't know if one can characterise that as burning everything down or not. Maybe not everything just any semblance of dignity.

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        Larry
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        #86

        @moonbat said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

        @loki said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

        The media keeps pushing two narratives:

        1. Constitutional and democracy crisis. The threat to our way of life has never been greater. It’s like the nuclear clock has been to 30 seconds before midnight.

        2. Trump is completely melting down and is going to burn everything about his life to the ground.

        Both are utter bullshit. Worse no one will go back and acknowledge what a canard this was.

        We want to talk about “news sources”. Hahahaha haha.

        1 Trying to circumvent an election by inventing fictitious fraud is now an acceptable action. So the damage is done. I suppose if Trump style politics gets exposed for the cancer that it is then perhaps that could be undone but perhaps that's wishful thinking.

        2 Toddler in chief is having tantrums and turning on Republicans who aren't publicly buying into his ridiculous conspiracy. I don't know if one characterise that as burning everything down or not. Maybe not everything just any semblance of dignity.

        @moonbat said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

        @loki said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

        The media keeps pushing two narratives:

        1. Constitutional and democracy crisis. The threat to our way of life has never been greater. It’s like the nuclear clock has been to 30 seconds before midnight.

        2. Trump is completely melting down and is going to burn everything about his life to the ground.

        Both are utter bullshit. Worse no one will go back and acknowledge what a canard this was.

        We want to talk about “news sources”. Hahahaha haha.

        1 Trying to circumvent an election by inventing fictitious fraud is now an acceptable action. So the damage is done. I suppose if Trump style politics gets exposed for the cancer that it is then perhaps that could be undone but perhaps that's wishful thinking.

        2 Toddler in chief is having tantrums and turning on Republicans who aren't publicly buying into his ridiculous conspiracy. I don't know if one characterise that as burning everything down or not. Maybe not everything just any semblance of dignity.

        That would all be well and good if it was based on fictitious fraud. But it's not.

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          Horace
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          #87

          Trump’s unsubstantiated whining about voter fraud at a level that reversed the election results will come to nothing. Personally I think hand waving about cultural norms being destroyed and redefined by a single apparently all powerful man, is just a symptom of TDS. I think some people take politicians more seriously than others.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • LarryL Larry

            @moonbat said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

            @loki said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

            The media keeps pushing two narratives:

            1. Constitutional and democracy crisis. The threat to our way of life has never been greater. It’s like the nuclear clock has been to 30 seconds before midnight.

            2. Trump is completely melting down and is going to burn everything about his life to the ground.

            Both are utter bullshit. Worse no one will go back and acknowledge what a canard this was.

            We want to talk about “news sources”. Hahahaha haha.

            1 Trying to circumvent an election by inventing fictitious fraud is now an acceptable action. So the damage is done. I suppose if Trump style politics gets exposed for the cancer that it is then perhaps that could be undone but perhaps that's wishful thinking.

            2 Toddler in chief is having tantrums and turning on Republicans who aren't publicly buying into his ridiculous conspiracy. I don't know if one characterise that as burning everything down or not. Maybe not everything just any semblance of dignity.

            @moonbat said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

            @loki said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

            The media keeps pushing two narratives:

            1. Constitutional and democracy crisis. The threat to our way of life has never been greater. It’s like the nuclear clock has been to 30 seconds before midnight.

            2. Trump is completely melting down and is going to burn everything about his life to the ground.

            Both are utter bullshit. Worse no one will go back and acknowledge what a canard this was.

            We want to talk about “news sources”. Hahahaha haha.

            1 Trying to circumvent an election by inventing fictitious fraud is now an acceptable action. So the damage is done. I suppose if Trump style politics gets exposed for the cancer that it is then perhaps that could be undone but perhaps that's wishful thinking.

            2 Toddler in chief is having tantrums and turning on Republicans who aren't publicly buying into his ridiculous conspiracy. I don't know if one characterise that as burning everything down or not. Maybe not everything just any semblance of dignity.

            That would all be well and good if it was based on fictitious fraud. But it's not.

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            Moonbat
            wrote on last edited by Moonbat
            #88

            @larry said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

            @moonbat said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

            @loki said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

            The media keeps pushing two narratives:

            1. Constitutional and democracy crisis. The threat to our way of life has never been greater. It’s like the nuclear clock has been to 30 seconds before midnight.

            2. Trump is completely melting down and is going to burn everything about his life to the ground.

            Both are utter bullshit. Worse no one will go back and acknowledge what a canard this was.

            We want to talk about “news sources”. Hahahaha haha.

            1 Trying to circumvent an election by inventing fictitious fraud is now an acceptable action. So the damage is done. I suppose if Trump style politics gets exposed for the cancer that it is then perhaps that could be undone but perhaps that's wishful thinking.

            2 Toddler in chief is having tantrums and turning on Republicans who aren't publicly buying into his ridiculous conspiracy. I don't know if one characterise that as burning everything down or not. Maybe not everything just any semblance of dignity.

            @moonbat said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

            @loki said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

            The media keeps pushing two narratives:

            1. Constitutional and democracy crisis. The threat to our way of life has never been greater. It’s like the nuclear clock has been to 30 seconds before midnight.

            2. Trump is completely melting down and is going to burn everything about his life to the ground.

            Both are utter bullshit. Worse no one will go back and acknowledge what a canard this was.

            We want to talk about “news sources”. Hahahaha haha.

            1 Trying to circumvent an election by inventing fictitious fraud is now an acceptable action. So the damage is done. I suppose if Trump style politics gets exposed for the cancer that it is then perhaps that could be undone but perhaps that's wishful thinking.

            2 Toddler in chief is having tantrums and turning on Republicans who aren't publicly buying into his ridiculous conspiracy. I don't know if one characterise that as burning everything down or not. Maybe not everything just any semblance of dignity.

            That would all be well and good if it was based on fictitious fraud. But it's not.

            I would like you/Jolly and Loki/Mik/Horace etc. to talk to one another.

            Two of you seem to think a massive fraud has occurred and that democracy has been fundamentally damaged in the eyes of the X million people who supposedly agree with you.

            Loki (I'm not actually sure what the other sane Rs think) seems to thinks nothing off any consequence has happened or is happening. So presumably either Loki thinks only a small minority think like you/Jolly or that X million people believing democracy has failed and actively supporting the orange one's degrading attempts to hang on to power is no big deal. That it is no big deal for a large portion of society to turn against the norms and mechanisms surrounding democratic governance.

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            • HoraceH Horace

              Trump’s unsubstantiated whining about voter fraud at a level that reversed the election results will come to nothing. Personally I think hand waving about cultural norms being destroyed and redefined by a single apparently all powerful man, is just a symptom of TDS. I think some people take politicians more seriously than others.

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              Moonbat
              wrote on last edited by Moonbat
              #89

              @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

              Trump’s unsubstantiated whining about voter fraud at a level that reversed the election results will come to nothing. Personally I think hand waving about cultural norms being destroyed and redefined by a single apparently all powerful man, is just a symptom of TDS. I think some people take politicians more seriously than others.

              I guess he's as powerful as his followers are. If he has none he's of no consequence. Larry and Jolly seem to think a significant chunk of those who voted for him are broadly on board with his actions. Do you think that's false? I'd like to believe that though if support for his claims and the actions he's taking are truly fringe it surprises me that so few politicians have been willing to denounce him.

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              • M Moonbat

                @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                Trump’s unsubstantiated whining about voter fraud at a level that reversed the election results will come to nothing. Personally I think hand waving about cultural norms being destroyed and redefined by a single apparently all powerful man, is just a symptom of TDS. I think some people take politicians more seriously than others.

                I guess he's as powerful as his followers are. If he has none he's of no consequence. Larry and Jolly seem to think a significant chunk of those who voted for him are broadly on board with his actions. Do you think that's false? I'd like to believe that though if support for his claims and the actions he's taking are truly fringe it surprises me that so few politicians have been willing to denounce him.

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                Horace
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                @moonbat all I’m confident of is that his allegations of fraud are not provable and will come to nothing. It is not a useful model for future politicians to pursue unless it’s effective.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  #91

                  I'm having a hard time choosing between the narrative that the liberals have staged a coup and the one that says they're childishly over-reacting to Trump's ridiculous claims.

                  it's a little odd that they don't appear to be arguing with one another, just yelling at the stoopid liberals.

                  I was only joking

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                    Loki
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                    Moonbat

                    After 4 years of watching the media and democrats doing everything in its power to nullify the 2016 election I am supposed to believe you are concerned about what is going on right now doesn’t pass the giggle test.

                    Now if you can explain why one behavior is fine and the other is the sky falling I am happy to listen. I just can’t follow an alarm bell so finely tuned to one way of thinking except that TDS makes the most sense.

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      I'm having a hard time choosing between the narrative that the liberals have staged a coup and the one that says they're childishly over-reacting to Trump's ridiculous claims.

                      it's a little odd that they don't appear to be arguing with one another, just yelling at the stoopid liberals.

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                      Horace
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                      #93

                      @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                      I'm having a hard time choosing between the narrative that the liberals have staged a coup and the one that says they're childishly over-reacting to Trump's ridiculous claims.

                      it's a little odd that they don't appear to be arguing with one another, just yelling at the stoopid liberals.

                      There certainly was an attempt to stage a cultural coup over the past four years, by the MSM trying to infect as many people as possible with TDS. I don’t think there’s a coup in the form of overt election fraud, but that’s only because I think our systems held up. The motivation was there. Keep in mind a small group of electors in 2016 attempted to steal the election from Trump, though I would guess you know nothing of that. Even jon pretended not to understand it happened.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                        I'm having a hard time choosing between the narrative that the liberals have staged a coup and the one that says they're childishly over-reacting to Trump's ridiculous claims.

                        it's a little odd that they don't appear to be arguing with one another, just yelling at the stoopid liberals.

                        There certainly was an attempt to stage a cultural coup over the past four years, by the MSM trying to infect as many people as possible with TDS. I don’t think there’s a coup in the form of overt election fraud, but that’s only because I think our systems held up. The motivation was there. Keep in mind a small group of electors in 2016 attempted to steal the election from Trump, though I would guess you know nothing of that. Even jon pretended not to understand it happened.

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                        LuFins Dad
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                        @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                        @doctor-phibes said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                        I'm having a hard time choosing between the narrative that the liberals have staged a coup and the one that says they're childishly over-reacting to Trump's ridiculous claims.

                        it's a little odd that they don't appear to be arguing with one another, just yelling at the stoopid liberals.

                        There certainly was an attempt to stage a cultural coup over the past four years, by the MSM trying to infect as many people as possible with TDS. I don’t think there’s a coup in the form of overt election fraud, but that’s only because I think our systems held up. The motivation was there. Keep in mind a small group of electors in 2016 attempted to steal the election from Trump, though I would guess you know nothing of that. Even jon pretended not to understand it happened.

                        The fraud that cost Trump the election did not happen in secret ballot dumps and computers switching votes in November 2020, it happened from November 2016 - through October 2020 in plain sight of everyone.

                        The Brad

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                          @Horace.

                          Nope. Didn’t happen.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            @Horace.

                            Nope. Didn’t happen.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                            @Horace.

                            Nope. Didn’t happen.

                            There were 7 faithless electors in 2016. Prior to that the most since 1948 was 1. Some electors were trying to normalize faithlessness in a mad hope to keep Trump from the White House. How many faithless electors were there this year?

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              The “Jon tried to pretend...” part.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                I have to say, I think a political system that even allows faithless electors to exist seems a little daft.

                                I was only joking

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  The “Jon tried to pretend...” part.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                  The “Jon tried to pretend...” part.

                                  You claimed to think it had nothing to do with depriving Trump of the election.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                    @Horace.

                                    Nope. Didn’t happen.

                                    There were 7 faithless electors in 2016. Prior to that the most since 1948 was 1. Some electors were trying to normalize faithlessness in a mad hope to keep Trump from the White House. How many faithless electors were there this year?

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                                    @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                    @jon-nyc said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                    @Horace.

                                    Nope. Didn’t happen.

                                    There were 7 faithless electors in 2016. Prior to that the most since 1948 was 1. Some electors were trying to normalize faithlessness in a mad hope to keep Trump from the White House. How many faithless electors were there this year?

                                    Pardon, there were 10 faithless electors in 2016. Beating the previous record since 1948, of 1. I haven’t seen the number of faithless electors in 2020. I assume it’s circa zero.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                      The “Jon tried to pretend...” part.

                                      You claimed to think it had nothing to do with depriving Trump of the election.

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                                      @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                      @jon-nyc said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                      The “Jon tried to pretend...” part.

                                      You claimed to think it had nothing to do with depriving Trump of the election.

                                      Link?

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                        @jon-nyc said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                        The “Jon tried to pretend...” part.

                                        You claimed to think it had nothing to do with depriving Trump of the election.

                                        Link?

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                        @horace said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                        @jon-nyc said in Deranged Magat Syndrome:

                                        The “Jon tried to pretend...” part.

                                        You claimed to think it had nothing to do with depriving Trump of the election.

                                        Link?

                                        It was very recent. I mentioned the faithless electors and you rebutted that most of them defected from Clinton, so it wasn’t about stealing the election from Trump. I asked you what you thought their motivations were and you guessed notoriety. Then I asked you to google it.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          #103

                                          Lin Wood going after Chief Justice Roberts

                                          And since the Chief Justice of the United States hasn’t sued him for libel, it must be true...

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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