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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    https://www.axios.com/trump-white-house-conspiracy-theories-d95450a4-c7a3-4579-a568-0473b18529c9.html

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    President Trump, in his final days, is turning bitterly on virtually every person around him, griping about anyone who refuses to indulge conspiracy theories or hopeless bids to overturn the election, several top officials tell Axios.

    The latest: Targets of his outrage include Vice President Pence, chief of staff Mark Meadows, White House counsel Pat Cipollone, Secretary of State Pompeo and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

    Why it matters: Trump thinks everyone around him is weak, stupid or disloyal — and increasingly seeks comfort only in people who egg him on to overturn the election results. We cannot stress enough how unnerved Trump officials are by the conversations unfolding inside the White House.

    Top officials are trying to stay away from the West Wing right now.

    Trump is lashing out, and everyone is in the blast zone: At this point, if you're not in the “use the Department of Homeland Security or the military to impound voting machines” camp, the president considers you weak and beneath contempt.
    Trump is fed up with Cipollone, his counsel. Some supporters of Cipollone are worried that Trump is on the brink of removing him and replacing him with a fringe loyalist.
    A source who spoke to Trump said the president was complaining about Pence and brought up a Lincoln Project ad that claims that Pence is "backing away" from Trump. This ad has clearly got inside Trump’s head, the source said.

    Trump views Pence as not fighting hard enough for him — the same complaint he uses against virtually everybody who works for him and has been loyal to him.
    Pence’s role on Jan. 6 has begun to loom large in Trump’s mind, according to people who’ve discussed the matter with him.

    Trump would view Pence performing his constitutional duty — and validating the election result — as the ultimate betrayal.
    A new fixation: Trump has even been asking advisers whether they can get state legislatures to rescind their electoral votes. When he’s told no, he lashes out even more, said a source who discussed the matter with the president.

    And in an Oval meeting Monday night, Trump spoke with House Republicans about voting to overturn the result on Jan. 6 — a desperate vote that even Trump has privately acknowledged he's bound to lose.
    The person who has the worst job in Washington, according to multiple administration officials: the incoming head of the Justice Department, Jeffrey Rosen.

    The consensus is he has no earthly idea the insanity he is in for.
    The next month will be the longest of his life.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

    L jon-nycJ 2 Replies Last reply
    • George KG George K

      https://www.axios.com/trump-white-house-conspiracy-theories-d95450a4-c7a3-4579-a568-0473b18529c9.html

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      President Trump, in his final days, is turning bitterly on virtually every person around him, griping about anyone who refuses to indulge conspiracy theories or hopeless bids to overturn the election, several top officials tell Axios.

      The latest: Targets of his outrage include Vice President Pence, chief of staff Mark Meadows, White House counsel Pat Cipollone, Secretary of State Pompeo and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

      Why it matters: Trump thinks everyone around him is weak, stupid or disloyal — and increasingly seeks comfort only in people who egg him on to overturn the election results. We cannot stress enough how unnerved Trump officials are by the conversations unfolding inside the White House.

      Top officials are trying to stay away from the West Wing right now.

      Trump is lashing out, and everyone is in the blast zone: At this point, if you're not in the “use the Department of Homeland Security or the military to impound voting machines” camp, the president considers you weak and beneath contempt.
      Trump is fed up with Cipollone, his counsel. Some supporters of Cipollone are worried that Trump is on the brink of removing him and replacing him with a fringe loyalist.
      A source who spoke to Trump said the president was complaining about Pence and brought up a Lincoln Project ad that claims that Pence is "backing away" from Trump. This ad has clearly got inside Trump’s head, the source said.

      Trump views Pence as not fighting hard enough for him — the same complaint he uses against virtually everybody who works for him and has been loyal to him.
      Pence’s role on Jan. 6 has begun to loom large in Trump’s mind, according to people who’ve discussed the matter with him.

      Trump would view Pence performing his constitutional duty — and validating the election result — as the ultimate betrayal.
      A new fixation: Trump has even been asking advisers whether they can get state legislatures to rescind their electoral votes. When he’s told no, he lashes out even more, said a source who discussed the matter with the president.

      And in an Oval meeting Monday night, Trump spoke with House Republicans about voting to overturn the result on Jan. 6 — a desperate vote that even Trump has privately acknowledged he's bound to lose.
      The person who has the worst job in Washington, according to multiple administration officials: the incoming head of the Justice Department, Jeffrey Rosen.

      The consensus is he has no earthly idea the insanity he is in for.
      The next month will be the longest of his life.

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      Loki
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      Trump will write the final chapter of the book.

      We will see how these predictions play out. The article acknowledges he knows he will lose so the lack of attempt to explain the underlying strategy is a big hole in the article- unless the point is to burn everything including himself.

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      • taiwan_girlT Offline
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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        President Trump calendar

        Well, he hasn’t been too busy doing public events.

        But honestly, I don’t think that’s a big deal. But, just like when people were saying Biden was in his basement, there is a lot being done out of the public view.

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        • Doctor PhibesD Online
          Doctor PhibesD Online
          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          I don't imagine Hitler's going to be very happy about this....

          I was only joking

          jon-nycJ 1 Reply Last reply
          • CopperC Offline
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            Copper
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            Trump is lashing out, and everyone is in the blast zone

            It's fun to pretend stories like this are real.

            There is certainly no need for restraint anymore when it comes to making stuff up, and spinning it sideways.

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              I don't imagine Hitler's going to be very happy about this....

              jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              @doctor-phibes said in "Downfall":

              I don't imagine Hitler's going to be very happy about this....

              Hahahahahaha

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • George KG George K

                https://www.axios.com/trump-white-house-conspiracy-theories-d95450a4-c7a3-4579-a568-0473b18529c9.html

                =-=-=-=-=-=-=

                President Trump, in his final days, is turning bitterly on virtually every person around him, griping about anyone who refuses to indulge conspiracy theories or hopeless bids to overturn the election, several top officials tell Axios.

                The latest: Targets of his outrage include Vice President Pence, chief of staff Mark Meadows, White House counsel Pat Cipollone, Secretary of State Pompeo and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

                Why it matters: Trump thinks everyone around him is weak, stupid or disloyal — and increasingly seeks comfort only in people who egg him on to overturn the election results. We cannot stress enough how unnerved Trump officials are by the conversations unfolding inside the White House.

                Top officials are trying to stay away from the West Wing right now.

                Trump is lashing out, and everyone is in the blast zone: At this point, if you're not in the “use the Department of Homeland Security or the military to impound voting machines” camp, the president considers you weak and beneath contempt.
                Trump is fed up with Cipollone, his counsel. Some supporters of Cipollone are worried that Trump is on the brink of removing him and replacing him with a fringe loyalist.
                A source who spoke to Trump said the president was complaining about Pence and brought up a Lincoln Project ad that claims that Pence is "backing away" from Trump. This ad has clearly got inside Trump’s head, the source said.

                Trump views Pence as not fighting hard enough for him — the same complaint he uses against virtually everybody who works for him and has been loyal to him.
                Pence’s role on Jan. 6 has begun to loom large in Trump’s mind, according to people who’ve discussed the matter with him.

                Trump would view Pence performing his constitutional duty — and validating the election result — as the ultimate betrayal.
                A new fixation: Trump has even been asking advisers whether they can get state legislatures to rescind their electoral votes. When he’s told no, he lashes out even more, said a source who discussed the matter with the president.

                And in an Oval meeting Monday night, Trump spoke with House Republicans about voting to overturn the result on Jan. 6 — a desperate vote that even Trump has privately acknowledged he's bound to lose.
                The person who has the worst job in Washington, according to multiple administration officials: the incoming head of the Justice Department, Jeffrey Rosen.

                The consensus is he has no earthly idea the insanity he is in for.
                The next month will be the longest of his life.

                jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                @george-k

                Did you read the WaPo article I posted yesterday in the DMS thread? It described the same thing but went on to discuss some of the meetings he’s having with Flynn, Rudy, Powell, and (of all people) Patrick Byrne, the ex-CEO of Overstock.com.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • KlausK Offline
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                  Klaus
                  wrote on last edited by Klaus
                  #8

                  Mit dem Angriff SteinersPowells wird das alles in Ordnung kommen.

                  George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                  • KlausK Klaus

                    Mit dem Angriff SteinersPowells wird das alles in Ordnung kommen.

                    George KG Offline
                    George KG Offline
                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    @klaus said in "Downfall":

                    Mit dem Angriff SteinersPowells wird das alles in Ordnung kommen.

                    😎

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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