Required vaccination
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 02:51 last edited by
A pilot friend tells me this has happened:
American Airlines can, legally, require crews to be vaccinated as a condition of employment
This is a new twist.
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 02:53 last edited by jon-nyc
Maybe they can but I doubt they will.
Healthcare companies, on the other hand...
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 12:43 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Required vaccination:
Maybe they can but I doubt they will.
Healthcare companies, on the other hand...
Had a discussion about that the other day. I suspect healthcare companies can do that?
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 12:44 last edited by
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/18/us/eeoc-employers-coronavirus-mandate.html
mployers can require workers to get a Covid-19 vaccine and bar them from the workplace if they refuse, the federal government said in guidelines issued this week.
Public health experts see employers as playing an important role in vaccinating enough people to reach herd immunity and get a handle on a pandemic that has killed more than 300,000 Americans. Widespread coronavirus vaccinations would keep people from dying, restart the economy and usher a return to some form of normalcy, experts say.
Employers had been waiting for guidance from the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, the agency that enforces laws against workplace discrimination, because requiring employees be tested for the coronavirus touches on thorny medical and privacy issues covered by the Americans With Disabilities Act of 1990.
The guidance, issued on Wednesday, confirmed what employment lawyers had expected.
Businesses and employers are uniquely positioned to require large numbers of Americans who otherwise would not receive a vaccination to do so because their employment depends on it.
“If a vaccine is administered to an employee by an employer for protection against contracting Covid-19, the employer is not seeking information about an individual’s impairments or current health status,” it stated, “and, therefore, it is not a medical examination.”
On its website, the commission said that requiring an employee to show proof of having gotten a Covid-19 vaccination would not amount to a disability-related inquiry.
“There are many reasons that may explain why an employee has not been vaccinated, which may or may not be disability-related,” the commission said.
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 12:55 last edited by
For all practical purposes life will be so much easier when you can prove you were vaccinated. Mandatory or not.
The next big thing will be social inequity and vaccination. The argument will shift from won’t to can’t.
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 17:00 last edited by
I assume a business requiring the vaccine would assume some liability for problems caused by the vaccine.
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 17:19 last edited by LuFins Dad
With 95% effectiveness rates, a lot of the public pressure for mandatory vaccinations should abate...
It won't, but it should...
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 18:29 last edited by jon-nyc
Assuming this model is approximately correct, we should be able to get to herd immunity with less than half of us taking the vaccine.
Of course it would be nice if there were proportionately more vaccines and fewer cases. But it seems to me that society is going to be ok either way.
I therefore don’t see a case for mandatory vaccines. At least on any widespread basis.
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Assuming this model is approximately correct, we should be able to get to herd immunity with less than half of us taking the vaccine.
Of course it would be nice if there were proportionately more vaccines and fewer cases. But it seems to me that society is going to be ok either way.
I therefore don’t see a case for mandatory vaccines. At least on any widespread basis.
wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 18:41 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Required vaccination:
Assuming this model is approximately correct, we should be able to get to herd immunity with less than half of us taking the vaccine.
Of course it would be nice if there were proportionately more vaccines and fewer cases. But it seems to me that society is going to be ok either way.
I therefore don’t see a case for mandatory vaccines. At least on any widespread basis.
I don't see the case for it either, but I do see the beginnings of a crusade for it. I see rational conversation and debate disappearing and being replaced by insults and ridicule. I see shame and fear being used to try to manipulate people from making rational decisions on both sides...
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wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 15:07 last edited by
https://www.axios.com/vaccine-proof-americans-demand-74778b08-7e1c-40f5-a83e-1a1649eb835d.html
Maybe not mandatory, but will that be a distinction without a difference?
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https://www.axios.com/vaccine-proof-americans-demand-74778b08-7e1c-40f5-a83e-1a1649eb835d.html
Maybe not mandatory, but will that be a distinction without a difference?
wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 18:19 last edited by@loki said in Required vaccination:
https://www.axios.com/vaccine-proof-americans-demand-74778b08-7e1c-40f5-a83e-1a1649eb835d.html
Maybe not mandatory, but will that be a distinction without a difference?
I'm sure this will stop with the wu-flu.
Nobody will ever think of making any other vaccines mandatory.