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    George K
    wrote on 6 Dec 2020, 00:35 last edited by
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    Somehow, I'm sure this is Trump's fault.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-nuclear-iaea/iran-tells-iaea-it-will-accelerate-underground-uranium-enrichment-idUSKBN28E1XM

    Iran plans to install hundreds more advanced uranium-enriching centrifuges at an underground plant in breach of its deal with major powers, a U.N. nuclear watchdog report showed on Friday, a move that will raise pressure on U.S. President-elect Joe Biden.

    The confidential International Atomic Energy Agency report obtained by Reuters said Iran plans to install three more cascades, or clusters, of advanced IR-2m centrifuges in the underground plant at Natanz, which was apparently built to withstand aerial bombardment.

    Iran’s nuclear deal with major powers says Tehran can only use first-generation IR-1 centrifuges, which are less efficient, at the underground plant and that those are the only machines with which Iran may accumulate enriched uranium.

    Iran recently moved one cascade of 174 IR-2m machines underground at Natanz and is enriching with it. It already planned to install two more cascades of other advanced models there, in addition to the 5,060 IR-1 machines that have been enriching for years in the plant built for more than 50,000.

    “In a letter dated 2 December 2020, Iran informed the Agency that the operator of the Fuel Enrichment Plant (FEP) at Natanz ‘intends to start installation of three cascades of IR-2m centrifuge machines’ at FEP,” the IAEA’s report to its member states said.

    Iran has breached many of the deal’s core restrictions on its nuclear activities in response to U.S. President Donald Trump’s withdrawal from the agreement and his reimposition of crippling economic sanctions. Tehran says its breaches can quickly be reversed if Washington’s moves are undone.

    Biden, who takes office on Jan. 20, has said he will bring the United States back into the deal if Iran resumes full compliance with its nuclear restrictions. That raises the prospect of a standoff over who should move first.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • G George K
      6 Dec 2020, 00:35

      Somehow, I'm sure this is Trump's fault.

      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-nuclear-iaea/iran-tells-iaea-it-will-accelerate-underground-uranium-enrichment-idUSKBN28E1XM

      Iran plans to install hundreds more advanced uranium-enriching centrifuges at an underground plant in breach of its deal with major powers, a U.N. nuclear watchdog report showed on Friday, a move that will raise pressure on U.S. President-elect Joe Biden.

      The confidential International Atomic Energy Agency report obtained by Reuters said Iran plans to install three more cascades, or clusters, of advanced IR-2m centrifuges in the underground plant at Natanz, which was apparently built to withstand aerial bombardment.

      Iran’s nuclear deal with major powers says Tehran can only use first-generation IR-1 centrifuges, which are less efficient, at the underground plant and that those are the only machines with which Iran may accumulate enriched uranium.

      Iran recently moved one cascade of 174 IR-2m machines underground at Natanz and is enriching with it. It already planned to install two more cascades of other advanced models there, in addition to the 5,060 IR-1 machines that have been enriching for years in the plant built for more than 50,000.

      “In a letter dated 2 December 2020, Iran informed the Agency that the operator of the Fuel Enrichment Plant (FEP) at Natanz ‘intends to start installation of three cascades of IR-2m centrifuge machines’ at FEP,” the IAEA’s report to its member states said.

      Iran has breached many of the deal’s core restrictions on its nuclear activities in response to U.S. President Donald Trump’s withdrawal from the agreement and his reimposition of crippling economic sanctions. Tehran says its breaches can quickly be reversed if Washington’s moves are undone.

      Biden, who takes office on Jan. 20, has said he will bring the United States back into the deal if Iran resumes full compliance with its nuclear restrictions. That raises the prospect of a standoff over who should move first.

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      Axtremus
      wrote on 6 Dec 2020, 03:23 last edited by
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      @George-K said in Spin 'em up!:

      Somehow, I'm sure this is Trump's fault.

      Yes, this is Trump’s fault, the “somehow” is that Trump pulled the USA out of the JCPOA.

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        Mik
        wrote on 6 Dec 2020, 03:43 last edited by
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        And your contention is Iran would have adhered to the deal? Obama just kicked the can down the road so he wouldn't have to deal with it. So did Europe.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • M Mik
          6 Dec 2020, 03:43

          And your contention is Iran would have adhered to the deal? Obama just kicked the can down the road so he wouldn't have to deal with it. So did Europe.

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          Axtremus
          wrote on 6 Dec 2020, 04:01 last edited by
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          @Mik said in Spin 'em up!:

          And your contention is Iran would have adhered to the deal?

          Iran was adhering to the deal, the US government certified many times that Iran had stuck to the deal, under the Obama administration and under the Trump administration — until some time after Trump pulled the USA out of the deal.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 6 Dec 2020, 10:43 last edited by
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            And you believe that?😄😄😄

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on 6 Dec 2020, 13:40 last edited by
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              My question is, was anything gained by removing ourselves from the deal?

              Was Anything lost by removing ourselves from the deal?

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                Copper
                wrote on 6 Dec 2020, 14:30 last edited by Copper 12 Jun 2020, 14:30
                #7

                They might have been adhering to the deal.

                But they were and are still trying to get the bomb.

                I think whether we are in or out of the deal has little to do with them making the bomb.

                It seems to me that they will make it and use it as soon as possible.

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                  6 Dec 2020, 04:01

                  @Mik said in Spin 'em up!:

                  And your contention is Iran would have adhered to the deal?

                  Iran was adhering to the deal, the US government certified many times that Iran had stuck to the deal, under the Obama administration and under the Trump administration — until some time after Trump pulled the USA out of the deal.

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                  Larry
                  wrote on 6 Dec 2020, 14:38 last edited by
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                  @Axtremus said in Spin 'em up!:

                  @Mik said in Spin 'em up!:

                  And your contention is Iran would have adhered to the deal?

                  Iran was adhering to the deal, the US government certified many times that Iran had stuck to the deal, under the Obama administration and under the Trump administration — until some time after Trump pulled the USA out of the deal.

                  No, Iran was not adhering to any deal. It was just recently reported in fact that not only did they not adhere to the deal, they had escalated without even slowing down for a day.

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                    Larry
                    wrote on 6 Dec 2020, 14:41 last edited by
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                    I heard on the news yesterday that the head raghead was handing things over to his son because his health is failing. No telling what that might mean.

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                      Copper
                      wrote on 6 Dec 2020, 14:45 last edited by
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                      Are we talking about the deal where they verified their own compliance?

                      That was good enough for Barry, but it ain't going to stop the bomb.

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