Thou shalt not wear a burqua

[George K]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/dec/12/burqa-wearing-banned-canada

Muslim women will no longer be able to cover their faces as they take Canadian citizenship after the country's immigration minister announced a ban on anyone wearing the niqab – the face veil – or burqa – full body and face covering – while taking the oath of citizenship.

He said that he had received complaints from citizenship judges who had claimed that it was difficult to ensure that individuals whose faces were covered were actually reciting the oath.

"They told me last month that it's a fairly common problem. Every week, in every region of the country, we're dealing with situations where applicants arrive with a veil on," said Jason Kenney, the minister of citizenship and immigration.

"Frankly, I found it bizarre that the rules allowed people to take the oath with a veil on."

He added that the move was also not simply a practical measure, saying: "It is a matter of deep principle that goes to the heart of our identity and our values of openness and equality."

Kenney said the oath of citizenship has to be done freely and openly and under equal conditions.

The announcement was made in the French-speaking province of Quebec, where a law passed last year banned the wearing of any face cover while applying for government services in the province.

Legislation that would force individuals to show their face in government-funded institutions is also currently being considered in Quebec.

Canada's supreme court last week also heard arguments in a case where a Muslim woman wants to testify while wearing a niqab, pitting her right of religious freedom against her alleged rapist's right to face his accuser in the trial.

Europe's first ban on face veils came was introduced in April in France, where anyone wearing the niqab or burqa in public faces a fine or lessons in French citizenship.

In September, a judge in Meaux fined two French women for wearing the niqab – the first sanction since France banned Islamic full-face veils in April.

H8Rs

[xenon]

Tangent - but related tangent.

I'm a natural born Canadian - but if you become a naturalized citizen you have to swear allegiance to the queen.

I don't feel great about pledging allegiance to a monarch. Especially when that monarch has no practical jurisdiction over me.

[George K]

@xenon so...didja?

[Doctor Phibes]

He didn't. but I did. In two languages, what's more.

I reckon there are more pictures of the Queen in Canada than England

[Loki]

Can you get a burqa with faraday cage properties?

[Doctor Phibes]

Faraday cages are illegal in Canada.

[xenon]

@George-K said in Thou shalt not wear a burqua:

@xenon so...didja?

The occasion has never come up since I was born in Canada - and therefore no one has ever asked me to affirm my allegiances.

[Doctor Phibes]

I didn't mind swearing allegiance, but doing it in French was a bit much. I'm pretty sure I could hear the sound of The Iron Duke spinning in his grave.

[Mik]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Thou shalt not wear a burqua:

He didn't. but I did. In two languages, what's more.

I reckon there are more pictures of the Queen in Canada than England

You were already a queen.

[Renauda]

That article is from 2011. Jason Kenny is now premier of Alberta. He is also an inept populist premier.

I agree though tribal/religious face coverings should be forbidden in citizenship court and when receiving services in government buildings.

Frankly, I would ban them outright in all public venues.

[Renauda]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Thou shalt not wear a burqua:

I didn't mind swearing allegiance, but doing it in French was a bit much. I'm pretty sure I could hear the sound of The Iron Duke spinning in his grave.

On the other hand Churchill was a thorough francophile unless, of course, DeGaulle was present.

[George K]

@Renauda said in Thou shalt not wear a burqua:

unless, of course, DeGaulle was present

Indeed. That was well documented in the biography I read, LOL.