“Election Hoax”
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The amount of damage Trump does right now is insane.
If he has evidence, he should inform the police or FBI or whatnot and take care that those who are responsible are arrested.
If he has no evidence, he should STFU.
In any case, he should stop the damaging tweets. This has become rather insane.
@Klaus said in “Election Hoax”:
If he has evidence,
cnn is awesome
Absolutely, positively awesome
They have put these words into so many mouths
Even the msm has spent the last weeks talking about Mr. Trump's evidence
For better or worse, real or fake, there is a ton of evidence and it is being presented
But somehow, even here at tncr, we have had several posts every day saying there is no evidence
I know, shut up, I'm stupid
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It has nothing to do with being stupid. I get his appeal, and it's based on real things.
It's a matter of values. The policies that you care about are relatively less important to me, and the aspects of Trump that you're willing to ignore are relatively more important to me.
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@Klaus said in “Election Hoax”:
If he has evidence,
cnn is awesome
Absolutely, positively awesome
They have put these words into so many mouths
Even the msm has spent the last weeks talking about Mr. Trump's evidence
For better or worse, real or fake, there is a ton of evidence and it is being presented
But somehow, even here at tncr, we have had several posts every day saying there is no evidence
I know, shut up, I'm stupid
@Copper said in “Election Hoax”:
For better or worse, real or fake, there is a ton of evidence and it is being presented
Where? I have seen nothing that even remotely justifies the fraud claims.
Even Tucker Carlson thinks there is basically no evidence yet. That should give you something to think about.
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@Jolly said in “Election Hoax”:
47%
This is where Trump is just an example of the new world we're in with Social Media.
Truth does not matter - what matters is how many people believe something. It's now very easy to throw a narrative out there to see if it sticks (no need for smoke filled rooms to be the gatekeepers)
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@Jolly said in “Election Hoax”:
47%
This is where Trump is just an example of the new world we're in with Social Media.
Truth does not matter - what matters is how many people believe something. It's now very easy to throw a narrative out there to see if it sticks (no need for smoke filled rooms to be the gatekeepers)
@xenon said in “Election Hoax”:
@Jolly said in “Election Hoax”:
47%
This is where Trump is just an example of the new world we're in with Social Media.
Truth does not matter - what matters is how many people believe something. It's now very easy to throw a narrative out there to see if it sticks (no need for smoke filled rooms to be the gatekeepers)
Noticed that 30% of Dems thought the election was rigged.
That was interesting...
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@xenon said in “Election Hoax”:
@Jolly said in “Election Hoax”:
47%
This is where Trump is just an example of the new world we're in with Social Media.
Truth does not matter - what matters is how many people believe something. It's now very easy to throw a narrative out there to see if it sticks (no need for smoke filled rooms to be the gatekeepers)
Noticed that 30% of Dems thought the election was rigged.
That was interesting...
@Jolly said in “Election Hoax”:
@xenon said in “Election Hoax”:
@Jolly said in “Election Hoax”:
47%
This is where Trump is just an example of the new world we're in with Social Media.
Truth does not matter - what matters is how many people believe something. It's now very easy to throw a narrative out there to see if it sticks (no need for smoke filled rooms to be the gatekeepers)
Noticed that 30% of Dems thought the election was rigged.
That was interesting...
A good portion of the population is just plain conspiratorial.
Humans are wired for stories.
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@Copper said in “Election Hoax”:
For better or worse, real or fake, there is a ton of evidence and it is being presented
Where? I have seen nothing that even remotely justifies the fraud claims.
Even Tucker Carlson thinks there is basically no evidence yet. That should give you something to think about.
@Klaus said in “Election Hoax”:
@Copper said in “Election Hoax”:
For better or worse, real or fake, there is a ton of evidence and it is being presented
Where? I have seen nothing that even remotely justifies the fraud claims.
Even Tucker Carlson thinks there is basically no evidence yet. That should give you something to think about.
You might notice I did not make any claim about the quality of the evidence, only it's existence.
There was a well publicized news conference yesterday that presented evidence.
It is easy to find.
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@Klaus said in “Election Hoax”:
@Copper said in “Election Hoax”:
For better or worse, real or fake, there is a ton of evidence and it is being presented
Where? I have seen nothing that even remotely justifies the fraud claims.
Even Tucker Carlson thinks there is basically no evidence yet. That should give you something to think about.
You might notice I did not make any claim about the quality of the evidence, only it's existence.
There was a well publicized news conference yesterday that presented evidence.
It is easy to find.
@Copper said in “Election Hoax”:
You might notice I did not make any claim about the quality of the evidence, only it's existence.
If you accuse somebody of murder and the best indicator you found was that the guy possesses a bread knife, would you call that "evidence"?
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It has nothing to do with being stupid. I get his appeal, and it's based on real things.
It's a matter of values. The policies that you care about are relatively less important to me, and the aspects of Trump that you're willing to ignore are relatively more important to me.
@xenon said in “Election Hoax”:
the aspects of Trump that you're willing to ignore are relatively more important to me.
You can say exactly the same about Biden voters.
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@Copper said in “Election Hoax”:
You might notice I did not make any claim about the quality of the evidence, only it's existence.
If you accuse somebody of murder and the best indicator you found was that the guy possesses a bread knife, would you call that "evidence"?
@Klaus said in “Election Hoax”:
@Copper said in “Election Hoax”:
You might notice I did not make any claim about the quality of the evidence, only it's existence.
If you accuse somebody of murder and the best
indicatorevidence you found was that the guy possesses a bread knife, would you call that "evidence"? -
@xenon said in “Election Hoax”:
the aspects of Trump that you're willing to ignore are relatively more important to me.
You can say exactly the same about Biden voters.
@Aqua-Letifer said in “Election Hoax”:
@xenon said in “Election Hoax”:
the aspects of Trump that you're willing to ignore are relatively more important to me.
You can say exactly the same about Biden voters.
100% .
I was trying to say that I'm not calling Trump voters stupid by criticizing Trump. It's a difference of values.
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It has nothing to do with being stupid. I get his appeal, and it's based on real things.
It's a matter of values. The policies that you care about are relatively less important to me, and the aspects of Trump that you're willing to ignore are relatively more important to me.
@xenon said in “Election Hoax”:
It's a matter of values. The policies that you care about are relatively less important to me, and the aspects of Trump that you're willing to ignore are relatively more important to me.
Good way of putting it.
And as @Aqua-Letifer and you mention, it works for both sides.
