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How does the GA result affect the Dominion conspiracy theory?

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #1

    Seems like it would put it to bed but then conspiracy theorists usually recast disproof of their theories as further evidence for same.

    You were warned.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #2

      Depends on the algorithm.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Loki
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        Of all the conspiracy theories this was the only one with enough intrigue that could be made into a movie. I loved the Venezuela connection in particular. It reminded me of the old coordinated attack, too sophisticated for a crackpot.

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        • CopperC Offline
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          #4

          Did the GA recount investigate the machines or just recount votes?

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          • CopperC Copper

            Did the GA recount investigate the machines or just recount votes?

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            xenon
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            #5

            @Copper why does it matter? The machines count votes, they don’t change the votes.

            If you count the votes by hand the machines are irrelevant.

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              #6

              The conspiracy theory is that the machines were creating Biden votes out of thin air or changing Trump votes to Biden votes.

              So just counting the illegal votes doesn't address the problem.

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              • CopperC Copper

                The conspiracy theory is that the machines were creating Biden votes out of thin air or changing Trump votes to Biden votes.

                So just counting the illegal votes doesn't address the problem.

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                xenon
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                #7

                @Copper said in How does the GA result affect the Dominion conspiracy theory?:

                The conspiracy theory is that the machines were creating Biden votes out of thin air or changing Trump votes to Biden votes.

                So just counting the illegal votes doesn't address the problem.

                The machine have ink in them and blank ballot paper? That'd be pretty easy to check.

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                  Copper
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                  #8

                  It might be easy to check if everyone cooperated and provided access.

                  Not everyone wants to do that.

                  That is why the question matters.

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                    jon-nyc
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                    @Copper said in How does the GA result affect the Dominion conspiracy theory?:

                    It might be easy to check if everyone anyone cooperated and provided access.

                    It would be enough for any one user anywhere to show the machines had printers embedded in them with ink and paper trays, etc.

                    The stupidest conspiracy theories are the ones that require thousands of people to be complicit and not even a single one deciding to profit off the story.

                    You were warned.

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                      @Copper said in How does the GA result affect the Dominion conspiracy theory?:

                      The conspiracy theory is that the machines were creating Biden votes out of thin air or changing Trump votes to Biden votes.

                      So just counting the illegal votes doesn't address the problem.

                      The machine have ink in them and blank ballot paper? That'd be pretty easy to check.

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                      Jolly
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                      @xenon said in How does the GA result affect the Dominion conspiracy theory?:

                      @Copper said in How does the GA result affect the Dominion conspiracy theory?:

                      The conspiracy theory is that the machines were creating Biden votes out of thin air or changing Trump votes to Biden votes.

                      So just counting the illegal votes doesn't address the problem.

                      The machine have ink in them and blank ballot paper? That'd be pretty easy to check.

                      Our machines are completely electronic. Don't know about Georgia.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        George K
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                        https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/americans-deserve-the-truth-even-if-its-unpleasant/

                        Dominion Voting Systems works in 28 states and ran elections in Ohio, Florida, and other states that Trump won. In state of Florida, which Trump won by a wider margin than expected, the state division of elections certified their voting systems as safe, secure, and effective. That division answers to the Florida secretary of state, Laurel Lee, who is a former assistant U.S. attorney and former judge appointed by Governor Ron DeSantis in 2019.

                        The Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency have thoroughly examined the company’s hardware and software and found no vulnerabilities, no backdoors, no evidence of a secret way to alter the votes.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/americans-deserve-the-truth-even-if-its-unpleasant/

                          Dominion Voting Systems works in 28 states and ran elections in Ohio, Florida, and other states that Trump won. In state of Florida, which Trump won by a wider margin than expected, the state division of elections certified their voting systems as safe, secure, and effective. That division answers to the Florida secretary of state, Laurel Lee, who is a former assistant U.S. attorney and former judge appointed by Governor Ron DeSantis in 2019.

                          The Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency have thoroughly examined the company’s hardware and software and found no vulnerabilities, no backdoors, no evidence of a secret way to alter the votes.

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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          @George-K said in How does the GA result affect the Dominion conspiracy theory?:

                          https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/americans-deserve-the-truth-even-if-its-unpleasant/

                          Dominion Voting Systems works in 28 states and ran elections in Ohio, Florida, and other states that Trump won. In state of Florida, which Trump won by a wider margin than expected, the state division of elections certified their voting systems as safe, secure, and effective. That division answers to the Florida secretary of state, Laurel Lee, who is a former assistant U.S. attorney and former judge appointed by Governor Ron DeSantis in 2019.

                          The Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency have thoroughly examined the company’s hardware and software and found no vulnerabilities, no backdoors, no evidence of a secret way to alter the votes.

                          The software is so sophisticated that it only cheats in States where it knows that Biden will win.

                          I was only joking

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                            #13

                            From the same piece:

                            If you still have more faith in Giuliani and Powell than everyone who contends what they’re saying is nonsense, don’t take my word for it. Every court document that is filed in relation to the election gets posted online. DemocracyDocket.com does a good job of collecting them and posting them fairly quickly. You can read through them; everything is right there in black and white. You can see that the Trump campaign’s lawyers are not making the same claims of massive widespread fraud and voter alteration in court. Lawyers face serious professional consequences for lying — that is, making an assertion that they know is not true, to a judge or jury — in a courtroom. Ask yourself, if what Giuliani and Powell are claiming is true, why is the Trump campaign not even making the accusation in court? Why are they not presenting evidence? Why did Powell get angry at Tucker Carlson, who is about as supportive a media voice as the Trump campaign could ever want, when he asked for evidence? Just what did Tucker Carlson do wrong in this situation?

                            You deserve to be treated better than this. You deserve the truth, even if the truth is unpleasant or something you don’t want to hear.

                            President Trump did not win the election.

                            You were warned.

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                              @George-K said in How does the GA result affect the Dominion conspiracy theory?:

                              https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/americans-deserve-the-truth-even-if-its-unpleasant/

                              Dominion Voting Systems works in 28 states and ran elections in Ohio, Florida, and other states that Trump won. In state of Florida, which Trump won by a wider margin than expected, the state division of elections certified their voting systems as safe, secure, and effective. That division answers to the Florida secretary of state, Laurel Lee, who is a former assistant U.S. attorney and former judge appointed by Governor Ron DeSantis in 2019.

                              The Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency have thoroughly examined the company’s hardware and software and found no vulnerabilities, no backdoors, no evidence of a secret way to alter the votes.

                              The software is so sophisticated that it only cheats in States where it knows that Biden will win.

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                              #14

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in How does the GA result affect the Dominion conspiracy theory?:

                              The software is so sophisticated that it only cheats in States where it knows that Biden will win.

                              That's rite!

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                From the same piece:

                                If you still have more faith in Giuliani and Powell than everyone who contends what they’re saying is nonsense, don’t take my word for it. Every court document that is filed in relation to the election gets posted online. DemocracyDocket.com does a good job of collecting them and posting them fairly quickly. You can read through them; everything is right there in black and white. You can see that the Trump campaign’s lawyers are not making the same claims of massive widespread fraud and voter alteration in court. Lawyers face serious professional consequences for lying — that is, making an assertion that they know is not true, to a judge or jury — in a courtroom. Ask yourself, if what Giuliani and Powell are claiming is true, why is the Trump campaign not even making the accusation in court? Why are they not presenting evidence? Why did Powell get angry at Tucker Carlson, who is about as supportive a media voice as the Trump campaign could ever want, when he asked for evidence? Just what did Tucker Carlson do wrong in this situation?

                                You deserve to be treated better than this. You deserve the truth, even if the truth is unpleasant or something you don’t want to hear.

                                President Trump did not win the election.

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                                Copper
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                @jon-nyc said in How does the GA result affect the Dominion conspiracy theory?:

                                From the same piece:

                                Why are they not presenting evidence?

                                This is the mantra

                                No matter how much evidence is presented, and a lot has been presented, deny it's existence

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  From the same piece:

                                  If you still have more faith in Giuliani and Powell than everyone who contends what they’re saying is nonsense, don’t take my word for it. Every court document that is filed in relation to the election gets posted online. DemocracyDocket.com does a good job of collecting them and posting them fairly quickly. You can read through them; everything is right there in black and white. You can see that the Trump campaign’s lawyers are not making the same claims of massive widespread fraud and voter alteration in court. Lawyers face serious professional consequences for lying — that is, making an assertion that they know is not true, to a judge or jury — in a courtroom. Ask yourself, if what Giuliani and Powell are claiming is true, why is the Trump campaign not even making the accusation in court? Why are they not presenting evidence? Why did Powell get angry at Tucker Carlson, who is about as supportive a media voice as the Trump campaign could ever want, when he asked for evidence? Just what did Tucker Carlson do wrong in this situation?

                                  You deserve to be treated better than this. You deserve the truth, even if the truth is unpleasant or something you don’t want to hear.

                                  President Trump did not win the election.

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                                  George K
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                                  #16

                                  @jon-nyc said in How does the GA result affect the Dominion conspiracy theory?:

                                  You can see that the Trump campaign’s lawyers are not making the same claims of massive widespread fraud and voter alteration in court. Lawyers face serious professional consequences for lying — that is, making an assertion that they know is not true, to a judge or jury — in a courtroom

                                  (Not to change the subject, but to sort of change the subject, which is why, when under subpoena and under oath, no one who testified in the Russia-collusion "investigation" said they had seen any evidence. It was all for show.)

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/americans-deserve-the-truth-even-if-its-unpleasant/

                                    Dominion Voting Systems works in 28 states and ran elections in Ohio, Florida, and other states that Trump won. In state of Florida, which Trump won by a wider margin than expected, the state division of elections certified their voting systems as safe, secure, and effective. That division answers to the Florida secretary of state, Laurel Lee, who is a former assistant U.S. attorney and former judge appointed by Governor Ron DeSantis in 2019.

                                    The Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency have thoroughly examined the company’s hardware and software and found no vulnerabilities, no backdoors, no evidence of a secret way to alter the votes.

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                                    Copper
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                                    #17

                                    @George-K said in How does the GA result affect the Dominion conspiracy theory?:

                                    The Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency have thoroughly examined the company’s hardware and software and found no vulnerabilities, no backdoors, no evidence of a secret way to alter the votes.

                                    Isn't there at least one County where everyone agrees that there was a secret way to alter the votes? Everyone agrees there was a way because it happened. Didn't that happen?

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