Trump roadmap to stay in the WH
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We can laugh at this but it’s far riskier than the legal challenge route.
He doesn’t need the law on his side for much of this, just corrupt legislators and bureaucrats that will subvert democracy for him. I’m afraid those won’t be hard to find.
@jon-nyc said in Trump roadmap to stay in the WH:
We can laugh at this but it’s far riskier than the legal challenge route.
He doesn’t need the law on his side for much of this, just corrupt legislators and bureaucrats that will destroy democracy for him. I’m afraid those won’t be hard to find.
Are you saying you actually read this?
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Georgia:
News release by Georgia’s Secretary of State: “HISTORIC FIRST STATEWIDE AUDIT OF PAPER BALLOTS UPHOLDS RESULT OF PRESIDENTIAL RACE”
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QAnon is a huge deal, maybe it'll replace racism. They'll have something in common, I'll only have encountered through my life people that condemn and ridicule them. Someday I'll see evil, I suppose. I know for a fact that I see stupid, but it's not of the QAnon or racism variety. Oh, you people.
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Excerpts from this morning's CNN editorial:
"Until either President Donald Trump admits defeat and calls off his minions or the GOP admits his defeat and acknowledges that Joe Biden is the President-elect, you've still got to hold your breath a little bit.
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"The multi-pronged conspiracy is not millions more voters choosing Biden. It's the expanding effort to overturn results in at least three states and undo a solid electoral defeat. It would be sad and funny if it weren't quite literally about ignoring the voters to keep Trump in power.
"And so it's extremely distressing that Trump is on the phone with Republican officials who now say they want to rescind their certification of votes in Wayne County, which covers Detroit -- a step that is normally just a technicality.
"It's also aggravating that a mid-level political appointee, GSA Administrator Emily Murphy, won't take the next step -- another technicality, "ascertainment" -- needed to let Biden's transition begin.
Anxiety is starting to rise in unexpected places. JP Morgan, for instance, is laying out the nightmare scenario for investors. As CNN's Matt Egan wrote:
Much of Wall Street views the Trump campaign's efforts to overturn the election results as a desperate sideshow destined to fail. But JPMorgan is telling clients there's still a chance that this process descends into chaos. It is 2020, after all.
"Michael Cembalest, chairman of market and investment strategy at JPMorgan Asset Management, warned in a report Wednesday of the "remote risk of an American horror story" and "constitutional mayhem."
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%%%%%%%That first sentence resonates.
I keep thinking of Trump saying, "I always find a way to win."
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@Horace - It’s a safe bet that, with your comfortable blue-tribe job and blue-tribe neighborhood, your life will remain Q-anon feee. Racism is still likely to come for you, unfortunately.
But to be fair, Williamson’s comments were a response to the news conference given by Trump’s team.
Only non-witches get due process.
- Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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I'm amazed how many people downplay what Trump is doing, as though it's all perfectly normal and acceptable.
When a few of us said a few months ago that we could envisage that Trump wouldn't accept the election result and try to cling to power, I seem to remember being laughed at.
This country is nuts.
I was only joking
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I'm amazed how many people downplay what Trump is doing, as though it's all perfectly normal and acceptable.
When a few of us said a few months ago that we could envisage that Trump wouldn't accept the election result and try to cling to power, I seem to remember being laughed at.
This country is nuts.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump roadmap to stay in the WH:
I'm amazed how many people downplay what Trump is doing, as though it's all perfectly normal and acceptable.
When a few of said a few months ago that we could envisage that Trump wouldn't accept the election result and try to cling to remember, I seem to remember being laughed at.
This country is nuts.
As I sit here in my bunker with my AK-47 as incoming whizzes over my head, i say Jesus Phibes was so right. How could I have been so naive to think when I woke up in the morning it would be like every other morning in my life.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump roadmap to stay in the WH:
I'm amazed how many people downplay what Trump is doing, as though it's all perfectly normal and acceptable.
When a few of us said a few months ago that we could envisage that Trump wouldn't accept the election result and try to cling to power, I seem to remember being laughed at.
This country is nuts.
Six months ago I made the specific predictions (1) that he would fight to disqualify whole classes of legal votes and (2) he would attempt to get states to overturn democratic results and appoint competing electors.
I was called ‘delusional’, and what I was saying was ‘nonsense’ and ‘literally insane’.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump roadmap to stay in the WH:
I'm amazed how many people downplay what Trump is doing, as though it's all perfectly normal and acceptable.
When a few of us said a few months ago that we could envisage that Trump wouldn't accept the election result and try to cling to power, I seem to remember being laughed at.
This country is nuts.
Six months ago I made the specific predictions (1) that he would fight to disqualify whole classes of legal votes and (2) he would attempt to get states to overturn democratic results and appoint competing electors.
I was called ‘delusional’, and what I was saying was ‘nonsense’ and ‘literally insane’.
@jon-nyc said in Trump roadmap to stay in the WH:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump roadmap to stay in the WH:
I'm amazed how many people downplay what Trump is doing, as though it's all perfectly normal and acceptable.
When a few of us said a few months ago that we could envisage that Trump wouldn't accept the election result and try to cling to power, I seem to remember being laughed at.
This country is nuts.
Six months ago I made the specific predictions (1) that he would fight to disqualify whole classes of legal votes and (2) he would attempt to get states to overturn democratic results and appoint competing electors.
I was called ‘delusional’, and what I was saying was ‘nonsense’ and ‘literally insane’.
I stand by it. You guys are spooked by the Wizard of Oz. Have your lap dog pull back the curtain.
What you take credit for is hysterical.
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He’s literally doing both of those things. They speak openly of it, they announce it at press conferences, put it in court filings.
Now if your real point is “they’re unlikely to be successful” then make that point, I agree they’re unlikely to be successful but they have done and will do real damage in the attempt.
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He’s literally doing both of those things. They speak openly of it, they announce it at press conferences, put it in court filings.
Now if your real point is “they’re unlikely to be successful” then make that point, I agree they’re unlikely to be successful but they have done and will do real damage in the attempt.
@jon-nyc said in Trump roadmap to stay in the WH:
He’s literally doing both of those things. They speak openly of it, they announce it at press conferences, put it in court filings.
Now if your real point is “they’re unlikely to be successful” then make that point.
You ever hear about the gnat floating down the river on his back with an erection saying draw bridge draw?
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You’re “nothing to see here” schtick falls flat. The damage he’s doing is too manifest to ignore.
My guess is this is the way you deal with the cognitive dissonance after twice pulling a (silent) lever for him.
Only non-witches get due process.
- Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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@jon-nyc said in Trump roadmap to stay in the WH:
He’s literally doing both of those things. They speak openly of it, they announce it at press conferences, put it in court filings.
Now if your real point is “they’re unlikely to be successful” then make that point.
You ever hear about the gnat floating down the river on his back with an erection saying draw bridge draw?
@Loki said in Trump roadmap to stay in the WH:
@jon-nyc said in Trump roadmap to stay in the WH:
He’s literally doing both of those things. They speak openly of it, they announce it at press conferences, put it in court filings.
Now if your real point is “they’re unlikely to be successful” then make that point.
You ever hear about the gnat floating down the river on his back with an erection saying draw bridge draw?
You ever hear about the guy swimming in de Nile?
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You’re “nothing to see here” schtick falls flat. The damage he’s doing is too manifest to ignore.
My guess is this is the way you deal with the cognitive dissonance after twice pulling a (silent) lever for him.
@jon-nyc said in Trump roadmap to stay in the WH:
You’re “nothing to see here” schtick falls flat. The damage he’s doing is too manifest to ignore.
My guess is this is the way you deal with the cognitive dissonance after twice pulling a (silent) lever for him.
I really don’t see it but I am open to a thoughtful discussion. If you expect me to read something that looks like the unibomber manifesto I just can’t. The faithless elector roadmap looks to me like the reasoning of a borsderline schizophrenic and I just don’t do that well.
Honestly Season 1 of Trump was enough. I did not know that the outcome would be recognition of a divided country and a divided government so it seems so much easier to have made the choice in retrospect.
What you never saw was my thoughts during the Clinton years and without that you are missing a really big chunk of 5e picture
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The issue with what Trump is doing is long term. How do we expect this to play out?
How are people going to behave at the next election?
When we have somebody on the left refusing to guarantee a peaceful transition those who are currently empowering Trump's childish whining may feel differently about the situation.
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The issue with what Trump is doing is long term. How do we expect this to play out?
How are people going to behave at the next election?
When we have somebody on the left refusing to guarantee a peaceful transition those who are currently empowering Trump's childish whining may feel differently about the situation.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump roadmap to stay in the WH:
The issue with what Trump is doing is long term. How do we expect this to play out?
How are people going to behave at the next election?
When we have somebody on the left refusing to guarantee a peaceful transition those who are currently empowering Trump's childish whining may feel differently about the situation.
Certification of votes generally happen next Monday and Tuesday. If the status quo hasn’t moved in earnest starting Wednesday get back to me.
The argument of time needed for transition is a very hollow argument. As you noted often Trump fired everyone and the economy did more than just fine and everyone was happy.
