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Goodbye, Facebook

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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
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    Facebook - he's doing it wrong.

    It's not a good place for serious discussions or politics.

    The idea of following the Cato Institute or Michael Moore on FB fills me with horror. I unfollowed the previously hilarious George Takei because he got too political, FFS.

    If all the politically outspoken people go to Parler, so much the better.

    I was only joking

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      Facebook - he's doing it wrong.

      It's not a good place for serious discussions or politics.

      The idea of following the Cato Institute or Michael Moore on FB fills me with horror. I unfollowed the previously hilarious George Takei because he got too political, FFS.

      If all the politically outspoken people go to Parler, so much the better.

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      Jolly
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      #3

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Goodbye, Facebook:

      Facebook - he's doing it wrong.

      It's not a good place for serious discussions or politics.

      The idea of following the Cato Institute or Michael Moore on FB fills me with horror. I unfollowed the previously hilarious George Takei because he got too political, FFS.

      If all the politically outspoken people go to Parler, so much the better.

      From the article:

      "One friend of mine recently commented that “Biden voters are idiots,” which earned her a month-long stay in Facebook jail. At most points in time this is nothing more than a comical anecdote, but my friend is deadly ill with advanced cancer and was using her Facebook account to communicate with her family and her several hundred friends. Among her missives was a series of requests for prayers.

      Nevertheless, the children in San Francisco who decide these things determined calling Biden supporters idiots was simply too much. Those words could not be borne by others, some of whom may have been Biden supporters and others of whom may in fact be Biden-supporting idiots.

      Ergo, she had to go."

      Why, yes. God protect us from political zealots like that...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Doctor Phibes
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        #4

        That's a terrible story, assuming it's true, and obviously I don't agree with banning or suspending people for things like that. That being said, I've actually seen a fair amount of political stupidity from both sides of the spectrum on my FB page - some really nasty stuff from people on the right in Britain regarding immigrants and Brexit, as well as some typical left-wing rubbish.

        I've unfollowed quite a few people from both camps I grew quite tired of. I had one guy harangue me for being a Bush supporter after I suggested Mr. Obama wasn't Jesus re-incarnated. I've also seen a number of people on both sides claim they were banned or blocked from posting, when it clearly wasn't the case.

        I was only joking

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        • jodiJ Offline
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          jodi
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          #5

          No plans to leave Facebook. I also use it to keep of with friends, and I’ve muted some of my friends (for 30 days) that have gotten too political (lots to do with COVID). This feels a little like the old piano forum breakup of previous elections, along with the arguments of who and what to censor (or not). 😄

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            Doctor Phibes
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            #6

            Some of the Covid-related conspiracy stuff is mind-blowing.

            I rather doubt that's going to be reduced on Parler, and the voice of reason will come through.

            I was only joking

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              jodi
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              Based on what happens in the the multiple piano forums I’ve followed over the years, as well as several Facebook pages currently, there is no way that Parler will not have issues. There is ALWAYS some douchebag that needs to disagree in the most unpleasant manner no matter what the subject. 😄

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              • MikM Offline
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                Mik
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                Who disagrees in what manner is not the issue. It is what and who they choose to silence and why.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  Pretty much everybody I know who recommends Parler is on the right of the spectrum, so I suspect it'll end up being where they hang out, at least for a while.

                  I was only joking

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                    Loki
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                    None of my male friends use Facebook in any meaningful way and no one I know under 35 is a Facebook user.

                    I am well aware of a situation where Facebook was incredibly useful for targeting older women and generated lots of business with each ad but was useless for the female 29 and under. Literally had no click throughs.

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                      #11

                      Tangent: https://www.engadget.com/2020-02-27-internet-forums-dying-off.html

                      We're a rare breed here - and waaaaaay better for discussion than the mainstream social media platforms.

                      I don't have FB on my phone - but I still check it from time to time on my PC. I started "unfollowing" people aggressively (they don't know you've unfollowed them - and you're still friends. You just don't see posts from them in your news feed).

                      If I see someone post multiple times - and I can't remember the last post they made that I would want to commit to long-term memory. They go into unfollow.

                      My FB is all baby pictures and birthday wishes now. Which is exactly how I like it. I visit about once a week.

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                      • L Loki

                        None of my male friends use Facebook in any meaningful way and no one I know under 35 is a Facebook user.

                        I am well aware of a situation where Facebook was incredibly useful for targeting older women and generated lots of business with each ad but was useless for the female 29 and under. Literally had no click throughs.

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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        @Loki said in Goodbye, Facebook:

                        I am well aware of a situation where Facebook was incredibly useful for targeting older women.

                        I thought that was just me, a/k/a Caspar Milftoast

                        I was only joking

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                        • MikM Mik

                          Who disagrees in what manner is not the issue. It is what and who they choose to silence and why.

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                          jodi
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                          @Mik yes, I do understand that, what I meant was - due to the nature of online social networks, and how some tend to behave on them - when enough folks show up in a place, there will be differences of opinion, and I imagine eventually they will have to put some sort of rules/censorship in place that not everyone will be happy with. (And those in charge of deleting/censoring will make judgment calls that feel like a mistake, as in the original story).

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                            As luck would have it, I am right now reading Mark Manson's blog on curing distraction. He says many useful things, but this is to the point of this thread: "Apply the Law of “Fuck Yes” or No to your social media connections – Go through all of your friends/follows lists, ask yourself two questions: “Is being connected with this person adding value to my life?” and “Does this person/group help me grow (i.e., overcoming fears and anxieties) or make me weak (i.e., amplifying fears and anxieties?)” If the answers aren’t emphatic FUCK YES’s then you need to unfriend or unfollow them. If you get hung up on someone or something and wonder if they’re worth keeping, the fact that you have to stop and wonder if they’re worth following is a sign that they’re not worth following. Get fucking ruthless. This is your attentional health we’re talking about here."

                            For the whole post: https://markmanson.net/attention-diet

                            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                            • X xenon

                              Tangent: https://www.engadget.com/2020-02-27-internet-forums-dying-off.html

                              We're a rare breed here - and waaaaaay better for discussion than the mainstream social media platforms.

                              I don't have FB on my phone - but I still check it from time to time on my PC. I started "unfollowing" people aggressively (they don't know you've unfollowed them - and you're still friends. You just don't see posts from them in your news feed).

                              If I see someone post multiple times - and I can't remember the last post they made that I would want to commit to long-term memory. They go into unfollow.

                              My FB is all baby pictures and birthday wishes now. Which is exactly how I like it. I visit about once a week.

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                              jodi
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                              @xenon yes, I unfollowed a few, but then started snoozing them for 30 days, because they are still people I care about, family, old friends from places we no longer live, even some forum friends I’ve never met IRL, Seriously the best posts are when people share pictures of what they are up to in their daily lives. The occasional funny meme is ok, but mostly I want to know about them.

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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                One thing I've noticed on Facebook is how many of my schoolfriends have identical twins who must have been separated at birth, since their childhood appears to have consisted solely of playing in WW2 bomb craters, riding bikes through muddy swamps, climbing on enormous climbing frames and generally having a freaking high-old time filled with poverty, but by 'eck they were 'appy.

                                All we ever did was drink hard cider behind the bus shelter and complain about how bored we were.

                                I was only joking

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  One thing I've noticed on Facebook is how many of my schoolfriends have identical twins who must have been separated at birth, since their childhood appears to have consisted solely of playing in WW2 bomb craters, riding bikes through muddy swamps, climbing on enormous climbing frames and generally having a freaking high-old time filled with poverty, but by 'eck they were 'appy.

                                  All we ever did was drink hard cider behind the bus shelter and complain about how bored we were.

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                                  Aqua Letifer
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                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Goodbye, Facebook:

                                  All we ever did was drink hard cider behind the bus shelter and complain about how bored we were.

                                  Link to video

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • jodiJ jodi

                                    @xenon yes, I unfollowed a few, but then started snoozing them for 30 days, because they are still people I care about, family, old friends from places we no longer live, even some forum friends I’ve never met IRL, Seriously the best posts are when people share pictures of what they are up to in their daily lives. The occasional funny meme is ok, but mostly I want to know about them.

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                                    Mik
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                                    @jodi said in Goodbye, Facebook:

                                    @xenon yes, I unfollowed a few, but then started snoozing them for 30 days, because they are still people I care about, family, old friends from places we no longer live, even some forum friends I’ve never met IRL, Seriously the best posts are when people share pictures of what they are up to in their daily lives. The occasional funny meme is ok, but mostly I want to know about them.

                                    That's what I want it for. The political stuff I generally stay away from unless I find an article interesting. But even then I take no position on it, sjust share and they can make of it what they will

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Goodbye, Facebook:

                                      All we ever did was drink hard cider behind the bus shelter and complain about how bored we were.

                                      Link to video

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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Goodbye, Facebook:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Goodbye, Facebook:

                                      All we ever did was drink hard cider behind the bus shelter and complain about how bored we were.

                                      Link to video

                                      Funnily enough, I saw them play King George's Hall in Blackburn, Lancashire (the place with 4000 holes) in 1978.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        Aqua Letifer
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                                        😆 Awesome. Paul Weller's the shit.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
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                                          I seem to remember he sang out of tune in Blackburn, and threatened somebody who spat on him.

                                          Or that might have been Stiff Little Fingers. It's all a bit of a blur.

                                          I was only joking

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