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The Fury of the Fatherless

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    Jolly
    wrote on 19 Nov 2020, 01:53 last edited by
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    https://www.firstthings.com/article/2020/12/the-fury-of-the-fatherless

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Axtremus
      wrote on 19 Nov 2020, 02:01 last edited by
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      She claims "fatherlessness" is the problem, yet provided no data to back up the claim. Lots of empty rhetorics that are not supported by empirical evidence.

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        Horace
        wrote on 19 Nov 2020, 02:25 last edited by
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        You don't think there is empirical evidence of a fatherless home's connection to name-your-bad-thing?

        Education is extremely important.

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          Mik
          wrote on 19 Nov 2020, 02:39 last edited by
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          You know, if memory serves there is enough research on the subject to fill a library.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Copper
            wrote on 19 Nov 2020, 02:59 last edited by
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            Remember the Million Man March

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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on 19 Nov 2020, 03:20 last edited by
              #6

              I do think that it is better to have two parents in the family, then just to be a single parent family.

              Don’t have data for that, but it just seems common sense to me.

              Of course, there will always be exceptions, like if the father is a drug user or alcohol user or something like that. But in normal cases, two parents are better than one.

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 19 Nov 2020, 12:14 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                #7

                So what's the solution? Take kids away from single parents? Force parents to stay together against their will? Outlaw selfishness?

                The article seems a little short on practical suggestions.

                I was only joking

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                • D Doctor Phibes
                  19 Nov 2020, 12:14

                  So what's the solution? Take kids away from single parents? Force parents to stay together against their will? Outlaw selfishness?

                  The article seems a little short on practical suggestions.

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                  Copper
                  wrote on 19 Nov 2020, 13:23 last edited by
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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in The Fury of the Fatherless:

                  So what's the solution? Take kids away from single parents? Force parents to stay together against their will? Outlaw selfishness?

                  The article seems a little short on practical suggestions.

                  More like encourage desirable values, the things you hear about when you go to church

                  You can find real communities there built on something other than hate Trump

                  And does anyone really think there is no data to support saying fatherless homes are undesirable?

                  What did I miss? Has cnn been pushing fatherless homes lately? Is this part of the narrative now?

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 19 Nov 2020, 13:45 last edited by
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                    The problem with church is that it's on Sunday morning. Typically, my kids are too busy trying to sober me up to attend.

                    I was only joking

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                      19 Nov 2020, 13:45

                      The problem with church is that it's on Sunday morning. Typically, my kids are too busy trying to sober me up to attend.

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                      Catseye3
                      wrote on 19 Nov 2020, 13:52 last edited by
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                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Fury of the Fatherless:

                      . . . my kids are too busy trying to sober me up to attend.

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                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 19 Nov 2020, 14:32 last edited by
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                        Who says you have to be sober?

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • M Mik
                          19 Nov 2020, 14:32

                          Who says you have to be sober?

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 19 Nov 2020, 14:44 last edited by
                          #12

                          @Mik said in The Fury of the Fatherless:

                          Who says you have to be sober?

                          Nothing ruins a well-presented sermon like a drunken heckler.

                          Or so I've heard.

                          I was only joking

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                            19 Nov 2020, 14:44

                            @Mik said in The Fury of the Fatherless:

                            Who says you have to be sober?

                            Nothing ruins a well-presented sermon like a drunken heckler.

                            Or so I've heard.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 19 Nov 2020, 14:54 last edited by
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                            @Doctor-Phibes said in The Fury of the Fatherless:

                            @Mik said in The Fury of the Fatherless:

                            Who says you have to be sober?

                            Nothing ruins a well-presented sermon like a drunken heckler.

                            Or so I've heard.

                            We can sober you up. Ve haft vays...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on 19 Nov 2020, 16:41 last edited by
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                              A friend of mine told me that the problem with church was that Christianity ends in the parking lot. LOL

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                                19 Nov 2020, 16:41

                                A friend of mine told me that the problem with church was that Christianity ends in the parking lot. LOL

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 19 Nov 2020, 16:44 last edited by
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                                @taiwan_girl said in The Fury of the Fatherless:

                                A friend of mine told me that the problem with church was that Christianity ends in the parking lot. LOL

                                There's always this big fight over who gets the Disabled spot.

                                I was only joking

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 20 Nov 2020, 05:04 last edited by
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                                  Meanwhile, we laugh while a generation of kids goes to Hell in a handbasket...

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    taiwan_girl
                                    wrote on 20 Nov 2020, 13:00 last edited by
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                                    I think that is too pessimist.

                                    Probably for a long long time, the older generations think the younger generations are on a path where things will get worse. The younger generations seem to figure it out.

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                                      20 Nov 2020, 05:04

                                      Meanwhile, we laugh while a generation of kids goes to Hell in a handbasket...

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 20 Nov 2020, 13:18 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                      #18

                                      @Jolly said in The Fury of the Fatherless:

                                      Meanwhile, we laugh while a generation of kids goes to Hell in a handbasket...

                                      Laughter's the best medicine, at least up until the point when the liquor stores open.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • D Doctor Phibes
                                        20 Nov 2020, 13:18

                                        @Jolly said in The Fury of the Fatherless:

                                        Meanwhile, we laugh while a generation of kids goes to Hell in a handbasket...

                                        Laughter's the best medicine, at least up until the point when the liquor stores open.

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                                        Catseye3
                                        wrote on 20 Nov 2020, 13:23 last edited by Catseye3
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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in The Fury of the Fatherless:

                                        Laughter's the best medicine, at least up until the point when the liquor stores open.

                                        Got a quote for you, Phibbs. I redd a brief biog of Franklin Pierce which included what is apparently his best-known quote: “All that’s left, is to drink and die.”

                                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                        • D Doctor Phibes
                                          19 Nov 2020, 12:14

                                          So what's the solution? Take kids away from single parents? Force parents to stay together against their will? Outlaw selfishness?

                                          The article seems a little short on practical suggestions.

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on 20 Nov 2020, 22:26 last edited by Horace
                                          #20

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The Fury of the Fatherless:

                                          So what's the solution? Take kids away from single parents? Force parents to stay together against their will? Outlaw selfishness?

                                          The article seems a little short on practical suggestions.

                                          Social ideas. What you think and what you say.

                                          The culture of black males has been reinforced time and again by white america. It's a culture of tough, violent men. So think twice.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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