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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
    #5

    @taiwan_girl

    ||You misread it. I squared those numbers for ease of notation and understanding the sequence. The real numbers would be (1, 4,032,064), (4, 4,028,049), (9, 4,024,036)...||

    You were warned.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      @taiwan_girl

      ||You misread it. I squared those numbers for ease of notation and understanding the sequence. The real numbers would be (1, 4,032,064), (4, 4,028,049), (9, 4,024,036)...||

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      taiwan_girl
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      #6

      @jon-nyc ah okay. πŸ‘πŸ»

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        #7

        Sorry, I screwed up. The sum of those numbers should be the square root of 2009. I fixed it above. The previous version is trivial, as Jon pointed out.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          @Klaus said in Puzzle time:

          Find all natural numbers x and y such that the sum of the square roots of x and y is 2009.

          All the square roots or just the positive ones?

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          #8

          @jon-nyc said in Puzzle time:

          @Klaus said in Puzzle time:

          Find all natural numbers x and y such that the sum of the square roots of x and y is 2009.

          All the square roots or just the positive ones?

          Just the positive ones.

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          • AxtremusA Away
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            #9

            ||Since the positive square root of 2009 is not a natural number, there is zero natural number for x and y such that they sum to the positive square root of 2009.||

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              wrote on last edited by
              #10

              Ax that’s not the problem. I’ll restate it:

              Solve for sqrt(x) + sqrt(y) = sqrt(2009) where x,y are natural numbers

              You were warned.

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                || (41 * a^2, 41 * b^2) where a,b are natural numbers with a+b=7.

                Or to spell it out, (41,1476), (164,1025), (369,656) and then the three number pairs that have those numbers reversed||

                You were warned.

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                • KlausK Offline
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                  #12

                  That looks good, Jon. Can you show how you got that solution?

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    #13

                    2009^1/2 simplifies to 7*sqrt(41)

                    So the two addends need to be in the form a * sqrt(41) and b * sqrt(41) with a and b summing to 7.

                    You were warned.

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                      πŸ‘

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