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Rethinking city life?

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    Improviso
    wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 13:58 last edited by
    #1

    There has been a “flip” to demand in rural areas and away from cities

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/17/redfin-ceo-rural-home-demand-shows-profound-psychological-change-amid-coronavirus.html

    We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
    Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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      brenda
      wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 14:13 last edited by
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      I think small towns may see increased demand for housing. It's less congested, but still offers convenient services, such as grocery, library, medical/dental, basic retail, restaurants. Smaller selection of services and products, but bigger space for living. Being cooped up in a small apartment with kids will make small city life look appealing. The amenities of a larger city are only a few minutes away.

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        Mik
        wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 14:14 last edited by Mik
        #3

        That will last until we get vaccinated.

        The change I hope for is establishing where we need to be to be ready for the next one and then getting there. I think that as far as stockpiles, that should be a state item rather than federal.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Jolly
          wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 14:53 last edited by
          #4

          Rural life?

          They ain't gonna like it. Driving 30 miles to a grocery store is routine. Entertainment is listening to the whip-or-wills at dusk. Keeping up a place is more than just running a lawnmower for twenty minutes, it's hard work.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • J Jolly
            18 Apr 2020, 14:53

            Rural life?

            They ain't gonna like it. Driving 30 miles to a grocery store is routine. Entertainment is listening to the whip-or-wills at dusk. Keeping up a place is more than just running a lawnmower for twenty minutes, it's hard work.

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 15:06 last edited by
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            @Jolly said in Rethinking city life?:

            Rural life?
            Entertainment is listening to the whip-or-wills at dusk.

            In rural Wales we spent many a happy hour listening to the contented bleating of a little woolly friend. Those city folk just wouldn't understand.

            I was only joking

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            • J Jolly
              18 Apr 2020, 14:53

              Rural life?

              They ain't gonna like it. Driving 30 miles to a grocery store is routine. Entertainment is listening to the whip-or-wills at dusk. Keeping up a place is more than just running a lawnmower for twenty minutes, it's hard work.

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              brenda
              wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 15:42 last edited by
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              @Jolly That's rural for your area, not here. Rural towns are what I'm talking about. Not the rural described in the article. I live in what's defined as a rural area, but I'm in a small city. The grocery store is just a few blocks from my house. The library is two blocks away. The medical office is three blocks away. Lots are roomy, and housing is very affordable compared to much of the nation.

              The broader range of amenities is 20 to 25 minutes away, including a world famous medical institution, and an international Airport. Heck, even Amtrak is only 45 minutes from here. (That was for George. 😃 )

              The Twin Cities are 90 minutes away. There are many small cities within 30 to 45 minutes of the Twin Cities. Lots of excellent options for folks who want more elbow room, and still have convenient access to retail and services.

              These types of places may be more appealing than before. I'm sure glad we're here.

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                Mik
                wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 15:42 last edited by Mik
                #7

                @Doctor-Phibes Did you at least offer her a cigarette afterward?

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • B brenda
                  18 Apr 2020, 15:42

                  @Jolly That's rural for your area, not here. Rural towns are what I'm talking about. Not the rural described in the article. I live in what's defined as a rural area, but I'm in a small city. The grocery store is just a few blocks from my house. The library is two blocks away. The medical office is three blocks away. Lots are roomy, and housing is very affordable compared to much of the nation.

                  The broader range of amenities is 20 to 25 minutes away, including a world famous medical institution, and an international Airport. Heck, even Amtrak is only 45 minutes from here. (That was for George. 😃 )

                  The Twin Cities are 90 minutes away. There are many small cities within 30 to 45 minutes of the Twin Cities. Lots of excellent options for folks who want more elbow room, and still have convenient access to retail and services.

                  These types of places may be more appealing than before. I'm sure glad we're here.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 15:44 last edited by
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                  @brenda said in Rethinking city life?:

                  @Jolly That's rural for your area, not here. Rural towns are what I'm talking about. Not the rural described in the article. I live in what's defined as a rural area, but I'm in a small city. The grocery store is just a few blocks from my house. The library is two blocks away. The medical office is three blocks away. Lots are roomy, and housing is very affordable compared to much of the nation.

                  The broader range of amenities is 20 to 25 minutes away, including a world famous medical institution, and an international Airport. Heck, even Amtrak is only 45 minutes from here. (That was for George. 😃 )

                  The Twin Cities are 90 minutes away. There are many small cities within 30 to 45 minutes of the Twin Cities. Lots of excellent options for folks who want more elbow room, and still have convenient access to retail and services.

                  These types of places may be more appealing than before. I'm sure glad we're here.

                  To me, that's town life.

                  If you can't routinely pee off your front porch and not worry about the neighbors or traffic, it's not rural to me...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • J Jolly
                    18 Apr 2020, 15:44

                    @brenda said in Rethinking city life?:

                    @Jolly That's rural for your area, not here. Rural towns are what I'm talking about. Not the rural described in the article. I live in what's defined as a rural area, but I'm in a small city. The grocery store is just a few blocks from my house. The library is two blocks away. The medical office is three blocks away. Lots are roomy, and housing is very affordable compared to much of the nation.

                    The broader range of amenities is 20 to 25 minutes away, including a world famous medical institution, and an international Airport. Heck, even Amtrak is only 45 minutes from here. (That was for George. 😃 )

                    The Twin Cities are 90 minutes away. There are many small cities within 30 to 45 minutes of the Twin Cities. Lots of excellent options for folks who want more elbow room, and still have convenient access to retail and services.

                    These types of places may be more appealing than before. I'm sure glad we're here.

                    To me, that's town life.

                    If you can't routinely pee off your front porch and not worry about the neighbors or traffic, it's not rural to me...

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                    brenda
                    wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 15:46 last edited by
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                    @Jolly
                    Oh, we have that just a couple minutes away from my house, too. Their drive to the grocery store is about 5 minutes. 😄

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                      Loki
                      wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 16:01 last edited by
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                      No doubt there will be a shift but this is like believing vinyl records will make a huge comeback. You’d have to believe that there is a huge societal shift and suddenly young people will view their lives completely differently. It’s possible but I would have to see a lot more evidence. Yeah they isolate themselves with technology but they also gather in the cities for jobs and connected living.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 16:20 last edited by
                        #11

                        My guess is that for many, 10 years from now this is going to be a distant memory

                        I was only joking

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                        • M Mik
                          18 Apr 2020, 15:42

                          @Doctor-Phibes Did you at least offer her a cigarette afterward?

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                          Larry
                          wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 17:03 last edited by
                          #12

                          @Mik said in Rethinking city life?:

                          @Doctor-Phibes Did you at least offer her a cigarette afterward?

                          His answer: "Na-a-a-a-a-h...."

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                          • L Loki
                            18 Apr 2020, 16:01

                            No doubt there will be a shift but this is like believing vinyl records will make a huge comeback. You’d have to believe that there is a huge societal shift and suddenly young people will view their lives completely differently. It’s possible but I would have to see a lot more evidence. Yeah they isolate themselves with technology but they also gather in the cities for jobs and connected living.

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                            brenda
                            wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 17:17 last edited by
                            #13

                            @Loki
                            I don't see a huge societal shift, just an increase in demand for rural small town living. It's the middle ground position between living miles from the next neighbor versus living in a downtown apartment. Some people will be more attracted to the small cities, people who weren't even thinking about the option just a year ago. Even a small increase in demand will get noticed here.

                            The change won't even make the news, but real estate agents will see it, city hall will see it, our schools here will see it. It won't be a tidal wave, just a little widening of the creek into the small town.

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                            • D Doctor Phibes
                              18 Apr 2020, 16:20

                              My guess is that for many, 10 years from now this is going to be a distant memory

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                              brenda
                              wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 17:19 last edited by
                              #14

                              @Doctor-Phibes

                              Let's hope so. That would mean we haven't seen repeats of this virus, or others as bad or worse.

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                                Larry
                                wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 17:29 last edited by
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                                I don't even know how people can stand being able to see someone else's house from the yard. You can't see another house from anywhere you stand in my yard, you can't see the road, you can't hear any cars on the road, and at night there are no lights coming from anything. Yet I can be in town in 15 minutes.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 18:41 last edited by
                                  #16

                                  If you can't see your neighbors' houses, how do you watch them when they're in the shower?

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • D Doctor Phibes
                                    18 Apr 2020, 18:41

                                    If you can't see your neighbors' houses, how do you watch them when they're in the shower?

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 18:53 last edited by
                                    #17

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Rethinking city life?:

                                    If you can't see your neighbors' houses, how do you watch them when they're in the shower?

                                    Walk over and have a cup of coffee.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • J Jolly
                                      18 Apr 2020, 15:44

                                      @brenda said in Rethinking city life?:

                                      @Jolly That's rural for your area, not here. Rural towns are what I'm talking about. Not the rural described in the article. I live in what's defined as a rural area, but I'm in a small city. The grocery store is just a few blocks from my house. The library is two blocks away. The medical office is three blocks away. Lots are roomy, and housing is very affordable compared to much of the nation.

                                      The broader range of amenities is 20 to 25 minutes away, including a world famous medical institution, and an international Airport. Heck, even Amtrak is only 45 minutes from here. (That was for George. 😃 )

                                      The Twin Cities are 90 minutes away. There are many small cities within 30 to 45 minutes of the Twin Cities. Lots of excellent options for folks who want more elbow room, and still have convenient access to retail and services.

                                      These types of places may be more appealing than before. I'm sure glad we're here.

                                      To me, that's town life.

                                      If you can't routinely pee off your front porch and not worry about the neighbors or traffic, it's not rural to me...

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 19:03 last edited by Mik
                                      #18

                                      @Jolly said in Rethinking city life?:

                                      @brenda said in Rethinking city life?:

                                      @Jolly That's rural for your area, not here. Rural towns are what I'm talking about. Not the rural described in the article. I live in what's defined as a rural area, but I'm in a small city. The grocery store is just a few blocks from my house. The library is two blocks away. The medical office is three blocks away. Lots are roomy, and housing is very affordable compared to much of the nation.

                                      The broader range of amenities is 20 to 25 minutes away, including a world famous medical institution, and an international Airport. Heck, even Amtrak is only 45 minutes from here. (That was for George. 😃 )

                                      The Twin Cities are 90 minutes away. There are many small cities within 30 to 45 minutes of the Twin Cities. Lots of excellent options for folks who want more elbow room, and still have convenient access to retail and services.

                                      These types of places may be more appealing than before. I'm sure glad we're here.

                                      To me, that's town life.

                                      If you can't routinely pee off your front porch and not worry about the neighbors or traffic, it's not rural to me...

                                      Hell, I do that now.

                                      Maybe that's why I'm not so popular in this neighborhood.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        18 Apr 2020, 18:41

                                        If you can't see your neighbors' houses, how do you watch them when they're in the shower?

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                                        Improviso
                                        wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 20:06 last edited by
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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Rethinking city life?:

                                        If you can't see your neighbors' houses, how do you watch them when they're in the shower?

                                        That's what a telescope is for. 👹

                                        We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                                        Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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