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  • CopperC Offline
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    I received a couple invitations to join this Facebook group this afternoon

    Apparently some people want to go back to work

    https://www.wtvr.com/news/coronavirus/reopen-virginia-draws-crowd-families-to-virginia-capitol

    ""Reopen Virginia draws crowd, families to Virginia Capitol

    RICHMOND, Va. -- A group gathered at the Virginia State Capitol Thursday to protest the actions Virginia Governor Ralph Northam took to slow the spread of COVID-19 in the Commonwealth.

    Chief among those actions are closing many non-essential businesses and ordering people to stay home.

    Floyd Bayne, a substitute teacher who has run for political office in the past, said Governor Northam's overstep has negatively impacted the lives of many Virginians.

    "Unlike the full-time teachers who are paid on salary and still getting paid. If I’m not working, I’m not getting paid," Bayne said about his situation.

    "We're fed up. We people want to go back to work," Reopen Virginia found Kristen Lynne Hall said. "I've got so many small business owners in my group that their business is failing. They're worried about how they're going to pay their next their mortgage."

    Governor Northam said he is making these decision based on science, data, and public health.

    "He is grateful to the millions of Virginians who are taking this seriously and working together to protect themselves, their families, and their communities," a spokesperson for the governor said. "As a doctor and as governor, his top priority is and will continue to be keeping Virginians safe."

    The event was described by organizers as a family-friendly picnic.

    About 50 people attended the gathering. The crowded was spilt between people on the Capitol grounds and those outside the fence.

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    • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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      Fine by me as long as offices who can operate remotely provide the option. Otherwise, if you have to go in to keep your job because the company caved to social pressure, then congratulations, you're going to be endangering other people's lives.

      Please love yourself.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        #3

        Of course you are. The question has become how many deaths are tolerable?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          And who.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            Fine by me as long as offices who can operate remotely provide the option. Otherwise, if you have to go in to keep your job because the company caved to social pressure, then congratulations, you're going to be endangering other people's lives.

            CopperC Offline
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            Copper
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            @Aqua-Letifer said in Reopen VA:

            Fine by me as long as offices who can operate remotely provide the option. Otherwise, if you have to go in to keep your job because the company caved to social pressure, then congratulations, you're going to be endangering other people's lives.

            Caved to social pressure

            Social pressure to not go out of business can be influential

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            • kluursK Offline
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              I think a lot of people think of deaths in the abstract. "OK, so we lose a couple of hundred thousand people." What isn't recognized is that people aren't just summarily executed. Those people will converge on a healthcare system that isn't designed to handle a huge influx of ill patients. Do we just decide to put them in camps, euthanize them or only care for those who can pay the most?

              We could say the same of other sick patients. Why spend millions on cancer care? Perhaps the money could be more efficaciously be spent elsewhere.

              On the other side is the cost of a worldwide depression - so no easy answer. Would you prefer to be blind and a paraplegic or sighted and quadriplegic? You decide.

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              • kluursK kluurs

                I think a lot of people think of deaths in the abstract. "OK, so we lose a couple of hundred thousand people." What isn't recognized is that people aren't just summarily executed. Those people will converge on a healthcare system that isn't designed to handle a huge influx of ill patients. Do we just decide to put them in camps, euthanize them or only care for those who can pay the most?

                We could say the same of other sick patients. Why spend millions on cancer care? Perhaps the money could be more efficaciously be spent elsewhere.

                On the other side is the cost of a worldwide depression - so no easy answer. Would you prefer to be blind and a paraplegic or sighted and quadriplegic? You decide.

                CopperC Offline
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                Copper
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                @kluurs said in Reopen VA:

                You decide.

                Yes.

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                  Astroturf.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    #9

                    Read the whole Twitter thread.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                      Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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