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@Mik said in Thievery, most foul?:
OK, so he's got the documents. Let's see 'em.
On his Twitter, he's still going on about them disappearing as if that's the major story.
Maybe he doesn't want to release them until after the election as he's concerned it would prejudice the election process?
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@Mik said in Thievery, most foul?:
OK, so he's got the documents. Let's see 'em.
On his Twitter, he's still going on about them disappearing as if that's the major story.
Maybe he doesn't want to release them until after the election as he's concerned it would prejudice the election process?
@Doctor-Phibes said in Thievery, most foul?:
Maybe he doesn't want to release them
Yeah, I've been wondering about that. If they're so freaking incriminating, what's he waiting for?
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@Copper said in Thievery, most foul?:
@nobodyssock said in Thievery, most foul?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Thievery, most foul?:
@Loki said in Thievery, most foul?:
@George-K said in Thievery, most foul?:
I find it impossible to believe that, if it were so damning, there are not other copies.
Exactly. This story doesn’t pass the giggle test.
It also completely undermines Tucker Carlson's credibility if he can't produce the documents.
Tucker Carlson and credibility is an oxymoron.
I bet he's stupid too.
Wouldn't you say Tucker is stupid?
I bet he is stupid.
He’s intelligent enough to spread the Right’s lies and play into the fears of the stupid
@nobodyssock said in Thievery, most foul?:
@Copper said in Thievery, most foul?:
@nobodyssock said in Thievery, most foul?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Thievery, most foul?:
@Loki said in Thievery, most foul?:
@George-K said in Thievery, most foul?:
I find it impossible to believe that, if it were so damning, there are not other copies.
Exactly. This story doesn’t pass the giggle test.
It also completely undermines Tucker Carlson's credibility if he can't produce the documents.
Tucker Carlson and credibility is an oxymoron.
I bet he's stupid too.
Wouldn't you say Tucker is stupid?
I bet he is stupid.
He’s intelligent enough to spread the Right’s lies and play into the fears of the stupid
You are disgusting. A walking, talking poster boy for every negative trait of the Left rolled up into one miserable little wad.
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Yesterday I said they mailed copies. I have since learned that what was mailed was a flash drive, which was a copy of the original flash drive, which they always had. I also learned that UPS executives "found" the flash drive shortly after Tucker told about it going missing on air, no they couldn't return the mailing envelope to him because it had been thrown away, an hourly worker just happened to find the flash drive laying on the floor, no, they didn't have any security cameras in that facility where millions of dollars worth of stuff passes through per year, and no, we can't explain how an hourly worker in a warehouse ended up putting that flash drive on the desk of one of the top corporate executives....
So it wasn't a situation of "this is what we claim, and we would show you the proof except the dog ate my homework" since they had the original the entire time. Apparently a lot of what is on the flash drive involves Hunter and not his father, stuff that involves hunter's taudry sex life, which they won't be airing since the focus is on Joe's corruption, not zhunter's perversion.
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Hey, why don't we have a bet? If Biden wins you get to look like a complete twat by wearing a bow-tie for a week. If Trump wins, I'll drink 24 cans of Budweiser.
Even I draw the line at the bowtie.
No, Ax, they're not cool.
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No, I'm kidding. It's a Doctor Who reference.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Thievery, most foul?:
Maybe he doesn't want to release them
Yeah, I've been wondering about that. If they're so freaking incriminating, what's he waiting for?
@George-K said in Thievery, most foul?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Thievery, most foul?:
Maybe he doesn't want to release them
Yeah, I've been wondering about that. If they're so freaking incriminating, what's he waiting for?
Watch the videos.
For one, these documents didn't just "go missing." According to Carlson, UPS admits that material was removed from the sealed package. That is, someone removed things from the shipping box. There's nowhere online that UPS refutes this. Their spokesman said:
After an extensive search, we have found the contents of the package and are arranging for its return
So yeah, the contents of the package were missing, not the whole package. After the package was sealed by Tucker's producer with two other people in the room. The UPS guy who picked up the package also admits the package was sealed. So the box was opened and contents were removed while in the custody of UPS.
Second, a lot of the stuff, according to Carlson, would really make Hunter Biden look bad but it's immaterial to the Tony Bobulinski stuff and has no ties to Joe Biden, so they're not running any of it.
That second part is, well, whatever, but the UPS thing is pretty weird.
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@Mik said in Thievery, most foul?:
Not exactly above board, is it?
The documents? No. But clearly some jackass at UPS tried to sabotage the package, almost certainly without knowing its contents.
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They've certainly managed to concoct a news story out of a bunch of stuff they don't feel comfortable airing.
I was only joking
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They've certainly managed to concoct a news story out of a bunch of stuff they don't feel comfortable airing.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Thievery, most foul?:
They've certainly managed to concoct a news story out of a bunch of stuff they don't feel comfortable airing.
Carlson and his team didn't know the contents of the stuff until after they received them; Carlson was dealing with the Bobulinski story at the time, not this.
I'm not trying to defend the guy, just saying that the package story seems legit. UPS backs up the claims.
Please love yourself.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Thievery, most foul?:
They've certainly managed to concoct a news story out of a bunch of stuff they don't feel comfortable airing.
Carlson and his team didn't know the contents of the stuff until after they received them; Carlson was dealing with the Bobulinski story at the time, not this.
I'm not trying to defend the guy, just saying that the package story seems legit. UPS backs up the claims.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Thievery, most foul?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Thievery, most foul?:
They've certainly managed to concoct a news story out of a bunch of stuff they don't feel comfortable airing.
Carlson and his team didn't know the contents of the stuff until after they received them; Carlson was dealing with the Bobulinski story at the time, not this.
I'm not trying to defend the guy, just saying that the package story seems legit. UPS backs up the claims.
Agreed. I just don't know that there is anything we need to see nor that there is a conspiracy. The idea that the DNC had the ins at UPS to make this happen seems a bit far fetched.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Thievery, most foul?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Thievery, most foul?:
They've certainly managed to concoct a news story out of a bunch of stuff they don't feel comfortable airing.
Carlson and his team didn't know the contents of the stuff until after they received them; Carlson was dealing with the Bobulinski story at the time, not this.
I'm not trying to defend the guy, just saying that the package story seems legit. UPS backs up the claims.
Agreed. I just don't know that there is anything we need to see nor that there is a conspiracy. The idea that the DNC had the ins at UPS to make this happen seems a bit far fetched.
@Mik said in Thievery, most foul?:
The idea that the DNC had the ins at UPS to make this happen seems a bit far fetched.
I don't think it was that. (To Carlson's credit, he didn't insinuate such, either.) UPS doesn't even know how it happened. Likely it was just some douchebag who works in a sorting facility acting on his own.
As for the contents of the documents, it's tautologically true that they aren't important enough to report on.
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He's not smart enough to use an ftp site or dropbox to transfer files.
Honestly - they mail this stuff on USB sticks? LOLz.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Thievery, most foul?:
He's not smart enough to use an ftp site or dropbox to transfer files.
Honestly - they mail this stuff on USB sticks? LOLz.
Dear of hacking?
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Thievery, most foul?:
He's not smart enough to use an ftp site or dropbox to transfer files.
Honestly - they mail this stuff on USB sticks? LOLz.
Dear of hacking?
@Jolly said in Thievery, most foul?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Thievery, most foul?:
He's not smart enough to use an ftp site or dropbox to transfer files.
Honestly - they mail this stuff on USB sticks? LOLz.
Dear of hacking?
According to Tucker's original video, the files were sent to a Fox producer, and he was sending them to Tucker as he was working remotely in California.
Now, I don't know about you, but I deal with highly confidential documents on a daily basis as part of my job, and we would never, ever, send them on a stick via a courier or via snail-mail. We have encryption processes set up, and internal networking that allows us to access these documents immediately.
As a matter of fact, our laptops are locked to prevent us from putting anything on a USB stick, due to security concerns.
If we had to send all our files via the mail, we'd never get anything done. And clearly, if you believe this story, the courier is a long way from being secure.
There's something about this whole story that doesn't make sense.
I was only joking
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@Jolly said in Thievery, most foul?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Thievery, most foul?:
He's not smart enough to use an ftp site or dropbox to transfer files.
Honestly - they mail this stuff on USB sticks? LOLz.
Dear of hacking?
According to Tucker's original video, the files were sent to a Fox producer, and he was sending them to Tucker as he was working remotely in California.
Now, I don't know about you, but I deal with highly confidential documents on a daily basis as part of my job, and we would never, ever, send them on a stick via a courier or via snail-mail. We have encryption processes set up, and internal networking that allows us to access these documents immediately.
As a matter of fact, our laptops are locked to prevent us from putting anything on a USB stick, due to security concerns.
If we had to send all our files via the mail, we'd never get anything done. And clearly, if you believe this story, the courier is a long way from being secure.
There's something about this whole story that doesn't make sense.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Thievery, most foul?:
@Jolly said in Thievery, most foul?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Thievery, most foul?:
He's not smart enough to use an ftp site or dropbox to transfer files.
Honestly - they mail this stuff on USB sticks? LOLz.
Dear of hacking?
According to Tucker's original video, the files were sent to a Fox producer, and he was sending them to Tucker as he was working remotely in California.
Now, I don't know about you, but I deal with highly confidential documents on a daily basis as part of my job, and we would never, ever, send them on a stick via a courier or via snail-mail. We have encryption processes set up, and internal networking that allows us to access these documents immediately.
As a matter of fact, our laptops are locked to prevent us from putting anything on a USB stick, due to security concerns.
If we had to send all our files via the mail, we'd never get anything done. And clearly, if you believe this story, the courier is a long way from being secure.
There's something about this whole story that doesn't make sense.
Doing it this way makes chain of custody a hell of a lot easier to follow. You can't go around giving everyone and their mother access to materials you're going to report on, because as soon as someone cries "tampering," you're going to have to walk back the entire history of the document: who had access, when manipulation happened if it occurred, who was accessing which version, etc. For reporting, it's got to be as linear as possible.
