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Glenn Greenwald quits The Intercept

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  • George KG Offline
    George KG Offline
    George K
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    #1

    https://greenwald.substack.com/p/my-resignation-from-the-intercept

    Today I sent my intention to resign from The Intercept, the news outlet I co-founded in 2013 with Jeremy Scahill and Laura Poitras, as well as from its parent company First Look Media.

    The final, precipitating cause is that The Intercept’s editors, in violation of my contractual right of editorial freedom, censored an article I wrote this week, refusing to publish it unless I remove all sections critical of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, the candidate vehemently supported by all New-York-based Intercept editors involved in this effort at suppression.

    The censored article, based on recently revealed emails and witness testimony, raised critical questions about Biden’s conduct. Not content to simply prevent publication of this article at the media outlet I co-founded, these Intercept editors also demanded that I refrain from exercising a separate contractual right to publish this article with any other publication.

    I had no objection to their disagreement with my views of what this Biden evidence shows: as a last-ditch attempt to avoid being censored, I encouraged them to air their disagreements with me by writing their own articles that critique my perspectives and letting readers decide who is right, the way any confident and healthy media outlet would. But modern media outlets do not air dissent; they quash it. So censorship of my article, rather than engagement with it, was the path these Biden-supporting editors chose.

    The censored article will be published on this page shortly (it is now published here). My letter of intent to resign, which I sent this morning to First Look Media’s President Michael Bloom, is published below.

    As of now, I will be publishing my journalism here on Substack, where numerous other journalists, including my good friend, the great intrepid reporter Matt Taibbi, have come in order to practice journalism free of the increasingly repressive climate that is engulfing national mainstream media outlets across the country.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      The princesses have spoken. Again. They'll speak again, and again, and again. (I mean the editors that forced him to quit, not Greenwald.) I seem to recall Greenwald is even a bit on the princess spectrum himself. Goes to show who's in control of the culture right now. It's fucking pathetic.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        Greenwald is pretty far left. However, he's intellectually honest.

        "If you've lost Greenwald...."

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
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          #4

          Yeah, dive into his exchanges with Sam Harris then tell me he's intellectually honest.

          You were warned.

          George KG 1 Reply Last reply
          • HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
            wrote on last edited by Horace
            #5

            He has his limits apparently. I'm familiar with his exchanges with Harris. I think it's fair to characterise this as a person with an overton window pretty far left, confronting a culture whose window is further left.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Yeah, dive into his exchanges with Sam Harris then tell me he's intellectually honest.

              George KG Offline
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              George K
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              @jon-nyc said in Glenn Greenwald quits The Intercept:

              Yeah, dive into his exchanges with Sam Harris then tell me he's intellectually honest.

              I haven't listened to Harris, so I'll take your word for that.

              In the interest of my laziness, care to elaborate?

              Serious question. Thanks.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • L Offline
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                Loki
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                #7

                Has there been a time when the MSM was less intellectually curious or willing to say anything negative about a Presidential candidate?

                Challenge: disprove the allegation that the MSM is actively helping the Biden campaign and is free marketing.

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by Jolly
                  #8

                  Voter suppression, as a wise man said...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • L Loki

                    Has there been a time when the MSM was less intellectually curious or willing to say anything negative about a Presidential candidate?

                    Challenge: disprove the allegation that the MSM is actively helping the Biden campaign and is free marketing.

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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    @Loki said in Glenn Greenwald quits The Intercept:

                    Has there been a time when the MSM was less intellectually curious or willing to say anything negative about a Presidential candidate?

                    Challenge: disprove the allegation that the MSM is actively helping the Biden campaign and is free marketing.

                    Fox is MSM, too.

                    Prove me wrong.

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @Loki said in Glenn Greenwald quits The Intercept:

                      Has there been a time when the MSM was less intellectually curious or willing to say anything negative about a Presidential candidate?

                      Challenge: disprove the allegation that the MSM is actively helping the Biden campaign and is free marketing.

                      Fox is MSM, too.

                      Prove me wrong.

                      CopperC Offline
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                      Copper
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                      #10

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Glenn Greenwald quits The Intercept:

                      @Loki said in Glenn Greenwald quits The Intercept:

                      Has there been a time when the MSM was less intellectually curious or willing to say anything negative about a Presidential candidate?

                      Challenge: disprove the allegation that the MSM is actively helping the Biden campaign and is free marketing.

                      Fox is MSM, too.

                      Prove me wrong.

                      Check with ax

                      I think he has found a few thousand high-level Fox types who now hate Mr. Trump and will vote democrat

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        @Loki said in Glenn Greenwald quits The Intercept:

                        Has there been a time when the MSM was less intellectually curious or willing to say anything negative about a Presidential candidate?

                        Challenge: disprove the allegation that the MSM is actively helping the Biden campaign and is free marketing.

                        Fox is MSM, too.

                        Prove me wrong.

                        George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #11

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Glenn Greenwald quits The Intercept:

                        Fox is MSM, too.
                        Prove me wrong.

                        Not disputing your comment, at all.

                        But it raises an interesting question: What, today, is the "mainstream media?"

                        30 years ago, it was one of 3 networks, with the brash CNN being the outlier. Today, everyone claims to be the "brash outlier."

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                        Doctor PhibesD 1 Reply Last reply
                        • HoraceH Horace

                          He has his limits apparently. I'm familiar with his exchanges with Harris. I think it's fair to characterise this as a person with an overton window pretty far left, confronting a culture whose window is further left.

                          Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          #12

                          @Horace said in Glenn Greenwald quits The Intercept:

                          He has his limits apparently. I'm familiar with his exchanges with Harris. I think it's fair to characterise this as a person with an overton window pretty far left, confronting a culture whose window is further left.

                          It doesn't matter how lefty or intellectually honest or dishonest he is. Read the emails, they're amazing.

                          They have a long back and forth about the credibility of his reporting, but after, he tells them basically that if they don't take his story, he'll go somewhere else with it, and he reminds them all of his contractual right to do so.

                          This is the response he received:

                          It would be unfortunate and detrimental to The Intercept for this story to be published elsewhere.

                          If this is an argument about quality reporting, why say this? Just what the hell is this supposed to mean in the context of his source material?

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Glenn Greenwald quits The Intercept:

                            Fox is MSM, too.
                            Prove me wrong.

                            Not disputing your comment, at all.

                            But it raises an interesting question: What, today, is the "mainstream media?"

                            30 years ago, it was one of 3 networks, with the brash CNN being the outlier. Today, everyone claims to be the "brash outlier."

                            Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @George-K said in Glenn Greenwald quits The Intercept:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Glenn Greenwald quits The Intercept:

                            Fox is MSM, too.
                            Prove me wrong.

                            Not disputing your comment, at all.

                            But it raises an interesting question: What, today, is the "mainstream media?"

                            30 years ago, it was one of 3 networks, with the brash CNN being the outlier. Today, everyone claims to be the "brash outlier."

                            If a shit-ton of people watch a channel, it's mainstream. Murdoch's global organisation is not an alternative news source for radicals. The only time FoxNews viewers use the term 'hip' is when they're having one replaced.

                            The term 'Mainstream' has been hijacked to imply it means something other than it does.

                            I was only joking

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