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  • AxtremusA Away
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    Axtremus
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    #3

    @taiwan_girl What model of Mac do you have?
    If you're not sure, click on the Apple icon at the top left corner of your screen and select "About This Mac" ... that will call up a window that tells your (among other things) the model/year for your Mac.

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    • George KG George K

      What model is your mac? Does it have Thunderbolt, or Firewire connectivity?

      Thunderbolt is a lot faster, and would help with slowness, though Firewire is passable.

      I would go to www.macsales.com and hit the "chat" button to see what kind of solution they recommend for an external drive for your computer.

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      Klaus
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      #4

      @George-K said in Calling George (or other Mac people here):

      What model is your mac? Does it have Thunderbolt, or Firewire connectivity?

      George, I have a Mac with RS-232 serial port. What kind of solution would you recommend?

      George KG markM 2 Replies Last reply
      • KlausK Klaus

        @George-K said in Calling George (or other Mac people here):

        What model is your mac? Does it have Thunderbolt, or Firewire connectivity?

        George, I have a Mac with RS-232 serial port. What kind of solution would you recommend?

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        George K
        wrote on last edited by George K
        #5

        @Klaus said in Calling George (or other Mac people here):

        @George-K said in Calling George (or other Mac people here):

        What model is your mac? Does it have Thunderbolt, or Firewire connectivity?

        George, I have a Mac with RS-232 serial port. What kind of solution would you recommend?

        AFAIK, no Mac ever had RS-232 ports.

        But if you're looking for connectivity, may I suggest GRINDR?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          @Klaus said in Calling George (or other Mac people here):

          @George-K said in Calling George (or other Mac people here):

          What model is your mac? Does it have Thunderbolt, or Firewire connectivity?

          George, I have a Mac with RS-232 serial port. What kind of solution would you recommend?

          AFAIK, no Mac ever had RS-232 ports.

          But if you're looking for connectivity, may I suggest GRINDR?

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          Klaus
          wrote on last edited by
          #6

          @George-K

          The RS-232 port is a female connector. You should know that you can't connect a male to another male connector, so why do you suggest GRINDR?

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          • KlausK Klaus

            @George-K said in Calling George (or other Mac people here):

            What model is your mac? Does it have Thunderbolt, or Firewire connectivity?

            George, I have a Mac with RS-232 serial port. What kind of solution would you recommend?

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            mark
            wrote on last edited by mark
            #7

            @Klaus said in Calling George (or other Mac people here):

            @George-K said in Calling George (or other Mac people here):

            What model is your mac? Does it have Thunderbolt, or Firewire connectivity?

            George, I have a Mac with RS-232 serial port. What kind of solution would you recommend?

            While technically correct, the Mac did have RS-422 ports that looked identical to an RS-232 port.

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            • AxtremusA Away
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              Axtremus
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              #8

              May be Klaus’ Mac’s RS-422 port self-identifies as an RS-232 port?

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                jon-nyc
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                #9

                It's a transport.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #10

                  George/Ax,

                  I have a 21.5 inch mid 2014 model
                  Processer 1.4 GHz Intel Cor i5
                  Memory 8GB 1600 MHz DDR3
                  Startup Disk Macintosh HD
                  Graphics Intel HD Graphics 5000 1536 MB

                  alt text

                  So, it appears that I do have the Thunderbolt.

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                  • AxtremusA Away
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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on last edited by Axtremus
                    #11

                    OK, @taiwan_girl , you have "Thunderbolt 2" ports on your computer, that's the best among all the ports on your computer to attach an external hard drive to.

                    This is my recommendation:

                    • Get something like this: https://www.owcdigital.com/products/drive-dock-thunderbolt-2 ... this lets you connect additional hard drives to your computer. You can use any hard drive with "SATA 3" interface with this thing.
                    • Get your SSD, I recommend Samsung's 860 EVO series, for example: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078DPCY3T/ ... there are multiple sizes, 250GB, 500GB, 1TB, etc. Buy the biggest one your budget allows, or buy two (the dock referenced above allows you to plug two drives in at the same time). The one I link to has "SATA 3" interface.

                    Everything above is "plug and play," you should not need to buy or install any additional software to use them. (But when it comes time to "clone" the content of your internal drive to your new SSD, some 3rd party software can make this easier ... we can deal with that later.)

                    Good luck.

                    taiwan_girlT George KG 3 Replies Last reply
                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      OK, @taiwan_girl , you have "Thunderbolt 2" ports on your computer, that's the best among all the ports on your computer to attach an external hard drive to.

                      This is my recommendation:

                      • Get something like this: https://www.owcdigital.com/products/drive-dock-thunderbolt-2 ... this lets you connect additional hard drives to your computer. You can use any hard drive with "SATA 3" interface with this thing.
                      • Get your SSD, I recommend Samsung's 860 EVO series, for example: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078DPCY3T/ ... there are multiple sizes, 250GB, 500GB, 1TB, etc. Buy the biggest one your budget allows, or buy two (the dock referenced above allows you to plug two drives in at the same time). The one I link to has "SATA 3" interface.

                      Everything above is "plug and play," you should not need to buy or install any additional software to use them. (But when it comes time to "clone" the content of your internal drive to your new SSD, some 3rd party software can make this easier ... we can deal with that later.)

                      Good luck.

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                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #12

                      @Axtremus

                      Excellent!!! Thanks for teh advice. I will look into those and keep you update. 🙂

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        OK, @taiwan_girl , you have "Thunderbolt 2" ports on your computer, that's the best among all the ports on your computer to attach an external hard drive to.

                        This is my recommendation:

                        • Get something like this: https://www.owcdigital.com/products/drive-dock-thunderbolt-2 ... this lets you connect additional hard drives to your computer. You can use any hard drive with "SATA 3" interface with this thing.
                        • Get your SSD, I recommend Samsung's 860 EVO series, for example: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078DPCY3T/ ... there are multiple sizes, 250GB, 500GB, 1TB, etc. Buy the biggest one your budget allows, or buy two (the dock referenced above allows you to plug two drives in at the same time). The one I link to has "SATA 3" interface.

                        Everything above is "plug and play," you should not need to buy or install any additional software to use them. (But when it comes time to "clone" the content of your internal drive to your new SSD, some 3rd party software can make this easier ... we can deal with that later.)

                        Good luck.

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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #13

                        @Axtremus said in Calling George (or other Mac people here):

                        OK, @taiwan_girl , you have "Thunderbolt 2" ports on your computer, that's the best among all the ports on your computer to attach an external hard drive to.

                        This is my recommendation:

                        • Get something like this: https://www.owcdigital.com/products/drive-dock-thunderbolt-2 ... this lets you connect additional hard drives to your computer.

                        That's the dock I have. OWC (macsales.com) is a great outfit.

                        A 2 TB SSD would probably cost about $150 now - look at Newegg.com for what you want.

                        After that, the process will be to install MacOS onto the new hard drive and use migration assistant to transfer everything from you old (internal) hard drive to your new (external) SSD.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          OK, @taiwan_girl , you have "Thunderbolt 2" ports on your computer, that's the best among all the ports on your computer to attach an external hard drive to.

                          This is my recommendation:

                          • Get something like this: https://www.owcdigital.com/products/drive-dock-thunderbolt-2 ... this lets you connect additional hard drives to your computer. You can use any hard drive with "SATA 3" interface with this thing.
                          • Get your SSD, I recommend Samsung's 860 EVO series, for example: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078DPCY3T/ ... there are multiple sizes, 250GB, 500GB, 1TB, etc. Buy the biggest one your budget allows, or buy two (the dock referenced above allows you to plug two drives in at the same time). The one I link to has "SATA 3" interface.

                          Everything above is "plug and play," you should not need to buy or install any additional software to use them. (But when it comes time to "clone" the content of your internal drive to your new SSD, some 3rd party software can make this easier ... we can deal with that later.)

                          Good luck.

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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #14

                          @Axtremus why do you recommend that particular SSD?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @Axtremus why do you recommend that particular SSD?

                            AxtremusA Away
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                            Axtremus
                            wrote on last edited by Axtremus
                            #15

                            @George-K said in Calling George (or other Mac people here):

                            @Axtremus why do you recommend that particular SSD?

                            The Samsung 860 EVO series hits what I consider a "sweet spot" that balances performance, durability, and cost.

                            If I want higher durability (more "write cycles" per cell), I can shift up to the 860 PRO, the trade off is I pay more money per GB to get that higher durability.

                            If I want to save money, I can shift down to the 860 QVO; I will get more GB per $, the trade off is the sustained "write" throughput will be materially slower than the 860 EVO.

                            Why do I stick to Samsung's 860 series? Because I have been using the Samsung 850, then the 860 for many years and they have yet to fail me.

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                            • AxtremusA Axtremus

                              @George-K said in Calling George (or other Mac people here):

                              @Axtremus why do you recommend that particular SSD?

                              The Samsung 860 EVO series hits what I consider a "sweet spot" that balances performance, durability, and cost.

                              If I want higher durability (more "write cycles" per cell), I can shift up to the 860 PRO, the trade off is I pay more money per GB to get that higher durability.

                              If I want to save money, I can shift down to the 860 QVO; I will get more GB per $, the trade off is the sustained "write" throughput will be materially slower than the 860 EVO.

                              Why do I stick to Samsung's 860 series? Because I have been using the Samsung 850, then the 860 for many years and they have yet to fail me.

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                              George K
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                              @Axtremus thanks for your thoughts.

                              I'm using a WD Blue 3D NAND 2TB Internal SSD. I believe I paid about $200 for it.

                              You said your Samsung drive has yet to have an issue. How will I know if my WD drive starts to have problems, other than a complete failure?

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Axtremus
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #17

                                @George-K No data corruption, no incident of the drives causing the system to "crash" or "hang", and on occasions when I bother to look at the S.M.A.R.T. report for those drives, the readings never give me reason to worry.

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                                  taiwan_girl
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #18

                                  Calling Ax and George again!
                                  @Axtremus ; @George-K

                                  I have finally receive the docking station and hard drive. Thanks for teh recommendations!!

                                  Now, do you have directions to a "tutorial" that could help me transfer the entire current hard drive (including start up information) to my new external hard drive.

                                  If the current hard drive becomes no longer usable, that is okay, as I have plenty of space. If it is available to use as an extra drive for storage (or something like that), that is okay too.

                                  Thanks again!!!

                                  George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                    Calling Ax and George again!
                                    @Axtremus ; @George-K

                                    I have finally receive the docking station and hard drive. Thanks for teh recommendations!!

                                    Now, do you have directions to a "tutorial" that could help me transfer the entire current hard drive (including start up information) to my new external hard drive.

                                    If the current hard drive becomes no longer usable, that is okay, as I have plenty of space. If it is available to use as an extra drive for storage (or something like that), that is okay too.

                                    Thanks again!!!

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #19

                                    @taiwan_girl said in Calling George (or other Mac people here):

                                    Calling Ax and George again!
                                    @Axtremus ; @George-K

                                    I have finally receive the docking station and hard drive. Thanks for teh recommendations!!

                                    Now, do you have directions to a "tutorial" that could help me transfer the entire current hard drive (including start up information) to my new external hard drive.

                                    If the current hard drive becomes no longer usable, that is okay, as I have plenty of space. If it is available to use as an extra drive for storage (or something like that), that is okay too.

                                    Thanks again!!!

                                    Here's what I've done in similar situations.

                                    Boot from the "Recovery Partition" of your hard drive, if you have one. Restart the Mac holding "command-R". It should give you a minimal startup with several options.

                                    If your hard drive doesn't have a "Recovery Partition" you can start up from an internet source: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201314

                                    Then, it'll ask you what you want to do.

                                    Tell it that you want to restore from your time machine backup.

                                    More tips at the link I included.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • AxtremusA Away
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                                      Axtremus
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                                      #20

                                      You current internal hard drive still works fine, right?
                                      You just want to put an "exact copy" of the content of your internal hard drive in your new, external SSD, right?

                                      For that, a piece of software you can use is Carbon Copy Cloner.

                                      That lets you create "Bootable Backup" - meaning after you copy the whole internal drive over to your new SSD, it also makes it possible for you to boot up from that new SSD in the future.

                                      See this article: https://bombich.com/kb/ccc5/best-practices-updating-your-macs-os
                                      Step-by-step instruction under the subheading "Make your bootable backup before upgrading"

                                      After Step 6 completes, Step 7 tells you how to set the computer to start-up from your new SSD, Step 8 is to check that you have indeed started up from your new SSD. If your intention is to have faster start-up by using your new SSD as the start-up drive going forward, then there is no need to go through Step 9 and Step 10.

                                      After Step 8, your new SSD will be your start-up drive.

                                      If you want to, you can retrace Steps 1-6 to have Carbon Copy Cloner "copy" from your (new SSD) start-up drive to another drive (that other drive can be your old/internal drive, or if you get another SSD that you plug into the other slot of the docking station, that other SSD can also be your backup drive).

                                      Good luck.

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                                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                        You current internal hard drive still works fine, right?
                                        You just want to put an "exact copy" of the content of your internal hard drive in your new, external SSD, right?

                                        For that, a piece of software you can use is Carbon Copy Cloner.

                                        That lets you create "Bootable Backup" - meaning after you copy the whole internal drive over to your new SSD, it also makes it possible for you to boot up from that new SSD in the future.

                                        See this article: https://bombich.com/kb/ccc5/best-practices-updating-your-macs-os
                                        Step-by-step instruction under the subheading "Make your bootable backup before upgrading"

                                        After Step 6 completes, Step 7 tells you how to set the computer to start-up from your new SSD, Step 8 is to check that you have indeed started up from your new SSD. If your intention is to have faster start-up by using your new SSD as the start-up drive going forward, then there is no need to go through Step 9 and Step 10.

                                        After Step 8, your new SSD will be your start-up drive.

                                        If you want to, you can retrace Steps 1-6 to have Carbon Copy Cloner "copy" from your (new SSD) start-up drive to another drive (that other drive can be your old/internal drive, or if you get another SSD that you plug into the other slot of the docking station, that other SSD can also be your backup drive).

                                        Good luck.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
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                                        @Axtremus good instructions. Much more comprehensive than my suggestions.

                                        I love CCC - it is one of my routine backup strategies.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          @Axtremus @George-K

                                          Thank you very much gentlemen!!!!! I will try it and let you know how it turns out.

                                          And Ax, yes, I am doing this for two reasons,

                                          mainly for faster startup and faster running applications
                                          extra space for appilications ((current HD is 500 and new one is 1TB).

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