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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    @Jolly said in Trump Swamp:

    @taiwan_girl said in Trump Swamp:

    VP Biden Tax Returns

    That's only for 2016 onward and not worth a warm bowl of spit.

    How did Joe get rich?

    By saving a minimum of 20% of his income every year, putting it in a world stock market index fund and not touching it, just letting it grow.

    If you are dedicated saver, after 50 years of "compound" growing, there would be quite a bit of money in a persons account.

    I dont know VP Bidens total worth, but the below example shows how a person can build wealth

    Investing $100 Monthly: An Example
    *Now suppose the same 30-year-old investor finds a way to save an additional $100 per month. He contributes the extra $100 to his portfolio and keeps reinvesting his dividends and interest payments. His investment still earns 8% per year. For simplicity's sake, assume compounding takes place once per year in January.

    After a 30-year period, thanks to compound returns and a small monthly contribution, his portfolio will grow to $186,253.14 (as compared to $50,313.28 without the monthly contributions). While $186,253.14 is not enough money to retire on, especially after 30 years of inflation, remember that this is just with $100 a month in contributions and returns below historical averages.

    Suppose the annual return is 9%, which is closer to historical averages for a 30-year period. With a $5,000 principal investment and $100 monthly contributions, the portfolio grows to $229,907.44. If the investor is able to save $200 a month for contributions, the future value of his portfolio is $393,476.48.*

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    Jolly
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    @taiwan_girl said in Trump Swamp:

    @Jolly said in Trump Swamp:

    @taiwan_girl said in Trump Swamp:

    VP Biden Tax Returns

    That's only for 2016 onward and not worth a warm bowl of spit.

    How did Joe get rich?

    By saving a minimum of 20% of his income every year, putting it in a world stock market index fund and not touching it, just letting it grow.

    If you are dedicated saver, after 50 years of "compound" growing, there would be quite a bit of money in a persons account.

    I dont know VP Bidens total worth, but the below example shows how a person can build wealth

    Investing $100 Monthly: An Example
    *Now suppose the same 30-year-old investor finds a way to save an additional $100 per month. He contributes the extra $100 to his portfolio and keeps reinvesting his dividends and interest payments. His investment still earns 8% per year. For simplicity's sake, assume compounding takes place once per year in January.

    After a 30-year period, thanks to compound returns and a small monthly contribution, his portfolio will grow to $186,253.14 (as compared to $50,313.28 without the monthly contributions). While $186,253.14 is not enough money to retire on, especially after 30 years of inflation, remember that this is just with $100 a month in contributions and returns below historical averages.

    Suppose the annual return is 9%, which is closer to historical averages for a 30-year period. With a $5,000 principal investment and $100 monthly contributions, the portfolio grows to $229,907.44. If the investor is able to save $200 a month for contributions, the future value of his portfolio is $393,476.48.*

    Ok, you're $4.6M short.

    How did Joe get rich?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      1789–1815 $6.00 per diem
      1815–1817 $1,500 per annum
      1817–1855 $8.00 per diem
      1855–1865 $3,000 per annum
      1865–1871 $5,000 per annum
      1871–1873 $7,500 per annum
      1873–1907 $5,000 per annum
      1907–1925 $7,500 per annum
      1925–1932 $10,000 per annum
      1932–1933 $9,000 per annum
      1933–1935 $8,500 per annum
      1935–1947 $10,000 per annum
      1947–1955 $12,500 per annum
      1955–1965 $22,500 per annum
      1965–1969 $30,000 per annum
      1969–1975 $42,500 per annum
      1975–1977 $44,600 per annum
      1977–1978 $57,500 per annum
      1979–1983 $60,662.50 per annum
      1983 $69,800 per annum
      1984 $72,600 per annum
      1985–1986 $75,100 per annum
      Jan 1, 1987 – Feb 3, 1987 $77,400 per annum
      Feb 4, 1987 $89,500 per annum
      Feb 1, 1990 $98,400 per annum
      Aug 15, 1991 $125,100 per annum
      1991 $101,900 per annum
      1992 $129,500 per annum
      1993 $133,600 per annum
      1994 $133,600 per annum
      1995 $133,600 per annum
      1996 $133,600 per annum
      1997 $133,600 per annum
      1998 $136,700 per annum
      1999 $136,700 per annum
      2000 $141,300 per annum
      2001 $145,100 per annum
      2002 $150,000 per annum
      2003 $154,700 per annum
      2004 $158,100 per annum
      2005 $162,100 per annum
      2006 $165,200 per annum
      2007 $165,200 per annum
      2008 $169,300 per annum
      2009 $174,000 per annum
      2010 $174,000 per annum
      2011 $174,000 per annum
      2012 $174,000 per annum
      2013 $174,000 per annum
      2014 $174,000 per annum
      2015 $174,000 per annum
      2016 $174,000 per annum
      2017 $174,000 per annum
      2018 $174,000 per annum
      2019 $174,000 per annum
      2020 $174,000 per annum

      Note: Since the early 1980s, Senate leaders–majority and minority leaders, and the president pro tempore–have received higher salaries than other members. Currently, leaders earn $193,400 per year.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Copper
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        Earn or receive?

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          xenon
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          #15

          His speaking fee per even was about $100K. He's was a professor at the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement (UPenn) that was worth about 540K/year.

          Then he had a couple of books on top of that.

          He's worth about $10M-$15M according to Bloomberg/Forbes.

          Does crime necessarily have to figure into this? Or is there some fact I'm missing?

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          • X xenon

            His speaking fee per even was about $100K. He's was a professor at the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement (UPenn) that was worth about 540K/year.

            Then he had a couple of books on top of that.

            He's worth about $10M-$15M according to Bloomberg/Forbes.

            Does crime necessarily have to figure into this? Or is there some fact I'm missing?

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            @xenon said in Trump Swamp:

            His speaking fee per even was about $100K. He's was a professor at the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement (UPenn) that was worth about 540K/year.

            Then he had a couple of books on top of that.

            He's worth about $10M-$15M according to Bloomberg/Forbes.

            Does crime necessarily have to figure into this? Or is there some fact I'm missing?

            I know what a professor at LSU makes, even the heads of the departments.

            Nobody makes $540K/yr. Why pay Biden that?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @xenon said in Trump Swamp:

              His speaking fee per even was about $100K. He's was a professor at the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement (UPenn) that was worth about 540K/year.

              Then he had a couple of books on top of that.

              He's worth about $10M-$15M according to Bloomberg/Forbes.

              Does crime necessarily have to figure into this? Or is there some fact I'm missing?

              I know what a professor at LSU makes, even the heads of the departments.

              Nobody makes $540K/yr. Why pay Biden that?

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              George K
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              @Jolly said in Trump Swamp:

              Nobody makes $540K/yr. Why pay Biden that?

              Silly Jolly...

              Because he's worth more, LOL.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @xenon said in Trump Swamp:

                His speaking fee per even was about $100K. He's was a professor at the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement (UPenn) that was worth about 540K/year.

                Then he had a couple of books on top of that.

                He's worth about $10M-$15M according to Bloomberg/Forbes.

                Does crime necessarily have to figure into this? Or is there some fact I'm missing?

                I know what a professor at LSU makes, even the heads of the departments.

                Nobody makes $540K/yr. Why pay Biden that?

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                xenon
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                #18

                @Jolly said in Trump Swamp:

                @xenon said in Trump Swamp:

                His speaking fee per even was about $100K. He's was a professor at the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement (UPenn) that was worth about 540K/year.

                Then he had a couple of books on top of that.

                He's worth about $10M-$15M according to Bloomberg/Forbes.

                Does crime necessarily have to figure into this? Or is there some fact I'm missing?

                I know what a professor at LSU makes, even the heads of the departments.

                Nobody makes $540K/yr. Why pay Biden that?

                Penn has more money? They sell prestige? They stand to make more money with a former VP as part of their faculty?

                Why does Harvard pay more than LSU?

                Simple explanations don't have to be sinister.

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                  The average professor's salary at Penn was $214,00).

                  https://www.phillymag.com/news/2019/07/10/joe-biden-penn-salary/

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @xenon said in Trump Swamp:

                    His speaking fee per even was about $100K. He's was a professor at the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement (UPenn) that was worth about 540K/year.

                    Then he had a couple of books on top of that.

                    He's worth about $10M-$15M according to Bloomberg/Forbes.

                    Does crime necessarily have to figure into this? Or is there some fact I'm missing?

                    I know what a professor at LSU makes, even the heads of the departments.

                    Nobody makes $540K/yr. Why pay Biden that?

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                    taiwan_girl
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                    #20

                    @Jolly said in Trump Swamp:

                    Nobody makes $540K/yr. Why pay Biden that?

                    Same reason that lobby companies pay former government officials large sums of money so that the officials can be on their letterhead and make phone calls to introduce and connect people

                    Same reason companies MAY do business with President Trumps children when other equivalent companies may be better

                    Same reason a Ukraine company would have VP Bidens son on the board.

                    Influence, publicity and (potential) access to power

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @taiwan_girl said in Trump Swamp:

                      VP Biden Tax Returns

                      That's only for 2016 onward and not worth a warm bowl of spit.

                      How did Joe get rich?

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                      George K
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                      #21

                      @Jolly said in Trump Swamp:

                      How did Joe get rich?

                      From over a year ago:

                      https://www.politico.eu/article/joe-biden-presidential-bid-family-business-history-democrats/

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @xenon said in Trump Swamp:

                        His speaking fee per even was about $100K. He's was a professor at the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement (UPenn) that was worth about 540K/year.

                        Then he had a couple of books on top of that.

                        He's worth about $10M-$15M according to Bloomberg/Forbes.

                        Does crime necessarily have to figure into this? Or is there some fact I'm missing?

                        I know what a professor at LSU makes, even the heads of the departments.

                        Nobody makes $540K/yr. Why pay Biden that?

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                        Klaus
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                        @Jolly said in Trump Swamp:

                        Nobody makes $540K/yr.

                        Not true. “Superstar” professors can make that and more, even at public universities. For instance, Terrence Tao at UCLA makes around $500k per year.

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                          Jolly
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                          #23

                          You want to compare Biden's class to Tao's?

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            I haven’t said anything about Biden. I was merely reacting to your comment on what no prof makes.

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                            • KlausK Klaus

                              I haven’t said anything about Biden. I was merely reacting to your comment on what no prof makes.

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                              George K
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                              @Klaus isn't it past your bedtime, LOL?

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • KlausK Klaus

                                @Jolly said in Trump Swamp:

                                Nobody makes $540K/yr.

                                Not true. “Superstar” professors can make that and more, even at public universities. For instance, Terrence Tao at UCLA makes around $500k per year.

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                                Horace
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                                #26

                                @Klaus said in Trump Swamp:

                                @Jolly said in Trump Swamp:

                                Nobody makes $540K/yr.

                                Not true. “Superstar” professors can make that and more, even at public universities. For instance, Terrence Tao at UCLA makes around $500k per year.

                                I didn't even have to look him up. I wonder how much of that is due to his cultural cache, among a niche, of having the highest IQ in the world.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  @Klaus said in Trump Swamp:

                                  @Jolly said in Trump Swamp:

                                  Nobody makes $540K/yr.

                                  Not true. “Superstar” professors can make that and more, even at public universities. For instance, Terrence Tao at UCLA makes around $500k per year.

                                  I didn't even have to look him up. I wonder how much of that is due to his cultural cache, among a niche, of having the highest IQ in the world.

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                                  Rainman
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                                  @Horace said in Trump Swamp:

                                  @Klaus said in Trump Swamp:

                                  @Jolly said in Trump Swamp:

                                  Nobody makes $540K/yr.

                                  Not true. “Superstar” professors can make that and more, even at public universities. For instance, Terrence Tao at UCLA makes around $500k per year.

                                  I didn't even have to look him up. I wonder how much of that is due to his cultural cache, among a niche, of having the highest IQ in the world.

                                  Damn I hate being 3rd.

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                                    Horace
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                                    I only used to follow the high IQ world.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      You put a swift end to that in April of 2005.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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