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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    Not much:

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    An enquiry has been opened in the UK into whether streaming music services like Spotify and Apple Music pay artists a fair royalty.

    Apple Music pays more than both Spotify and YouTube on a per-stream basis, but artists say that the amount they receive from all streaming services is just a small percentage of a tiny sum …

    BBC News reports.

    Streaming is now the major source of income for the record industry, generating just over £1bn last year.
    But many artists say the payments they receive are negligible.

    Department for Digital, Culture, Media & Sport (DCMS) committee chair Julian Knight MP said the growth of the streaming market “cannot come at the expense of talented and lesser-known artists”.

    The inquiry will begin in November, and is seeking evidence from industry experts, artists and record labels as well as streaming platforms themselves.

    At the extreme end of the scale, violinist Tamsin Little tweeted earlier this year that she received just £12.34 ($16) for 5-6 million streams over a six-month period. That turned out to be because her music was recorded before digital rights were created as a distinct category in artist contracts, so her label was essentially able to choose how much to pay her.

    However, it is commonplace for musicians – especially lesser-known ones – to report receiving extremely small payments for hundreds of thousands of streams on services like Apple Music, Spotify and YouTube Music.

    Streaming services pay a small sum for each time a track is streamed. Per BBC figures, these are:

    Apple Music: c. £0.0059 ($0.0076)
    Spotify: c. £0.002-£00.38 ($0.0026-$0.0049)
    YouTube: c. £0.00052 ($0.00067)

    These are the total sums paid by streaming services for all the rights holders. This is then split three ways between label, composer and artist – with the artist typically receiving 13%. This means that an artist will receive $0.0000988 per Apple Music stream, or $1 for every 10,122 streams.

    The problem is particularly acute during coronavirus lockdowns, as the majority of musicians are currently unable to earn money from live gigs. Streaming music royalties thus form the bulk of their income, with a smaller proportion from music sales (downloads and physical media).

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

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      Up the money for current artists. Make anything 50 or 75 years or older, public domain.

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      • LarryL Offline
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        I think I'll do a thread on royalties, record label contracts, etc..

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          I think I'll do a thread on royalties, record label contracts, etc..

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          George K
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          @Larry said in What streaming pays:

          I think I'll do a thread on royalties, record label contracts, etc..

          That would be an interesting read, to say the least.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            I'll do that this evening when I've got more time. It will take a while to type it out. Right now I've got to take my car to the body shop so they can take pictures of the damage for the other guy's insurance adjuster.

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