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    xenon
    wrote on last edited by
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    What's your plan?

    Should the government nationalize social media platforms?

    Should the government write rules on what can and can't be blocked? (Sex, violence, lies, etc.?)

    Which government? These platforms are global.

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      Aqua Letifer
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      #2

      No libel. That's basically it.

      Please love yourself.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        No libel. That's basically it.

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        @Aqua-Letifer said in Social media regulation:

        No libel. That's basically it.

        Too difficult to say that.

        For example, you say something about me. I think it is libel. Does Facebook/Twitter take it down until a court rules? Do they wait until a court rules? What if I do not go with a lawsuit?

        I don’t think it so easy.

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          Doctor Phibes
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          #4

          At what point do we start regulating?

          IOW, what size does the platform have before you need to start telling them how they have to operate?

          I don't think it's easy at all for governments to dictate how internet sites behave, or for us to decide what is and is not acceptable.

          And yes, what is acceptable in Germany, or Poland, or Brazil, is likely to be very different from what Americans will tolerate.

          In other words, I don't have a plan. Nothing new there, of course.

          I was only joking

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            There is no regulation needed.

            Nobody believes anything they read on these sites.

            And what kind of enforcement would there be? Would North Korean enforcement (beheading) be better that Saudi (hand removal)?

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              Aqua Letifer
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              @taiwan_girl @Doctor-Phibes Guys, we already do this. It wouldn't be new at all.

              Say you have a snarky t-shirt design you want to make that features Mickey Mouse. You make the design and upload it onto a POD website. Disney finds out about this.

              Here's what already happens: so that the POD website doesn't get implicated in your identity theft, they remove your design from their platform immediately, and turn over your information to Disney. Also, in order to sell stuff on their platform, you signed a EULA promising that everything you post, you have the intellectual property rights for. So the POD company has covered its ass, which is why Disney only goes after you personally.

              Obviously Disney doesn't have the time to prosecute everyone who tries stunts like this, so if you're not on Disney's shitlist (read: this was your first time and you've made little to no money from your theft), they send you a cease and desist. Otherwise, they prosecute the shit out of you.

              No reason why we can't have this be the process for social media platforms.

              Please love yourself.

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              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                @taiwan_girl @Doctor-Phibes Guys, we already do this. It wouldn't be new at all.

                Say you have a snarky t-shirt design you want to make that features Mickey Mouse. You make the design and upload it onto a POD website. Disney finds out about this.

                Here's what already happens: so that the POD website doesn't get implicated in your identity theft, they remove your design from their platform immediately, and turn over your information to Disney. Also, in order to sell stuff on their platform, you signed a EULA promising that everything you post, you have the intellectual property rights for. So the POD company has covered its ass, which is why Disney only goes after you personally.

                Obviously Disney doesn't have the time to prosecute everyone who tries stunts like this, so if you're not on Disney's shitlist (read: this was your first time and you've made little to no money from your theft), they send you a cease and desist. Otherwise, they prosecute the shit out of you.

                No reason why we can't have this be the process for social media platforms.

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                Doctor Phibes
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                @Aqua-Letifer said in Social media regulation:

                @taiwan_girl @Doctor-Phibes Guys, we already do this. It wouldn't be new at all.

                Say you have a snarky t-shirt design you want to make that features Mickey Mouse. You make the design and upload it onto a POD website. Disney finds out about this.

                Here's what already happens: so that the POD website doesn't get implicated in your identity theft, they remove your design from their platform immediately, and turn over your information to Disney. Also, in order to sell stuff on their platform, you signed a EULA promising that everything you post, you have the intellectual property rights for. So the POD company has covered its ass, which is why Disney only goes after you personally.

                Obviously Disney doesn't have the time to prosecute everyone who tries stunts like this, so if you're not on Disney's shitlist (read: this was your first time and you've made little to no money from your theft), they send you a cease and desist. Otherwise, they prosecute the shit out of you.

                No reason why we can't have this be the process for social media platforms.

                You already have libel laws, too. They don't seem to be working, possibly because it costs so much money to sue anybody, so they only benefit the rich fat bastard capitalist running dog lackeys (no offense to anybody who's rich, illegitimate or likes running with dogs)

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Social media regulation:

                  @taiwan_girl @Doctor-Phibes Guys, we already do this. It wouldn't be new at all.

                  Say you have a snarky t-shirt design you want to make that features Mickey Mouse. You make the design and upload it onto a POD website. Disney finds out about this.

                  Here's what already happens: so that the POD website doesn't get implicated in your identity theft, they remove your design from their platform immediately, and turn over your information to Disney. Also, in order to sell stuff on their platform, you signed a EULA promising that everything you post, you have the intellectual property rights for. So the POD company has covered its ass, which is why Disney only goes after you personally.

                  Obviously Disney doesn't have the time to prosecute everyone who tries stunts like this, so if you're not on Disney's shitlist (read: this was your first time and you've made little to no money from your theft), they send you a cease and desist. Otherwise, they prosecute the shit out of you.

                  No reason why we can't have this be the process for social media platforms.

                  You already have libel laws, too. They don't seem to be working, possibly because it costs so much money to sue anybody, so they only benefit the rich fat bastard capitalist running dog lackeys (no offense to anybody who's rich, illegitimate or likes running with dogs)

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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Social media regulation:

                  You already have libel laws, too. They don't seem to be working, possibly because it costs so much money to sue anybody, so they only benefit the rich fat bastard capitalist running dog lackeys (no offense to anybody who's rich, illegitimate or likes running with dogs)

                  So make the laws a little more sensitive, if they have to be, and make libel as easy to litigate against as a DMCA violation.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Social media regulation:

                    @taiwan_girl @Doctor-Phibes Guys, we already do this. It wouldn't be new at all.

                    Say you have a snarky t-shirt design you want to make that features Mickey Mouse. You make the design and upload it onto a POD website. Disney finds out about this.

                    Here's what already happens: so that the POD website doesn't get implicated in your identity theft, they remove your design from their platform immediately, and turn over your information to Disney. Also, in order to sell stuff on their platform, you signed a EULA promising that everything you post, you have the intellectual property rights for. So the POD company has covered its ass, which is why Disney only goes after you personally.

                    Obviously Disney doesn't have the time to prosecute everyone who tries stunts like this, so if you're not on Disney's shitlist (read: this was your first time and you've made little to no money from your theft), they send you a cease and desist. Otherwise, they prosecute the shit out of you.

                    No reason why we can't have this be the process for social media platforms.

                    You already have libel laws, too. They don't seem to be working, possibly because it costs so much money to sue anybody, so they only benefit the rich fat bastard capitalist running dog lackeys (no offense to anybody who's rich, illegitimate or likes running with dogs)

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                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Social media regulation:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Social media regulation:

                    @taiwan_girl @Doctor-Phibes Guys, we already do this. It wouldn't be new at all.

                    Say you have a snarky t-shirt design you want to make that features Mickey Mouse. You make the design and upload it onto a POD website. Disney finds out about this.

                    Here's what already happens: so that the POD website doesn't get implicated in your identity theft, they remove your design from their platform immediately, and turn over your information to Disney. Also, in order to sell stuff on their platform, you signed a EULA promising that everything you post, you have the intellectual property rights for. So the POD company has covered its ass, which is why Disney only goes after you personally.

                    Obviously Disney doesn't have the time to prosecute everyone who tries stunts like this, so if you're not on Disney's shitlist (read: this was your first time and you've made little to no money from your theft), they send you a cease and desist. Otherwise, they prosecute the shit out of you.

                    No reason why we can't have this be the process for social media platforms.

                    You already have libel laws, too. They don't seem to be working, possibly because it costs so much money to sue anybody, so they only benefit the rich fat bastard capitalist running dog lackeys (no offense to anybody who's rich, illegitimate or likes running with dogs)

                    Libel laws in GB and in the U.S. are worlds apart...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                      #10

                      Yeah, there's no presumption of innocence for the person accused of libel, rather it's the other way around. If you're going to say nasty things about somebody in the UK, you need to be able to back it up with proof.

                      There's something to be said for both sides, but the UK is generally a lot less litigious than the US. The trashy media is no better, but they're different. I would say that mass media news reporting is quite a lot better quality than the US, but whether that's because of the libel laws is debatable.

                      I was only joking

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