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Puzzle time - Find the angle

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  • KlausK Online
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    Klaus
    wrote on last edited by
    #15

    Oh, I see. The relative size doesn't matter. It's always 120 degrees.

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      jon-nyc
      wrote on last edited by
      #16

      Can you prove it?

      Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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      • KlausK Online
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        Klaus
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        #17

        Well, I assume if I set up a formula for the angle given side length a and b for the triangles, then simplify using textbook identities for trigonometric functions, the a's and b's will magically cancel each other all out and I'll just get the 120 degrees.

        There should be a tool online that turns geometric constructions into algebraic equations. There's pizza in the oven, so I can't be bothered to do that by hand right now ๐Ÿ™‚

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        • Doctor PhibesD Online
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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on last edited by
          #18

          I'm going with 120 degrees.

          My reasoning is that Klaus knows about this stuff.

          I was only joking

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          • Doctor PhibesD Online
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            Doctor Phibes
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            #19

            Sorry, I should probably have put that in a spoiler

            I was only joking

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              #20

              You can do it without complex trig identities. In your head in fact.

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              • KlausK Online
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                Klaus
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                #21

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                The sum of angles in the upper quadrilateral is 360 degrees. The top one must be 60 degrees. Beta and Gamma add up to 180 degrees. That leaves the desired 120 degrees. The only missing step is why beta and gamma add up to 180.

                Something like that?

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #22

                  Not quite right but the solution is that โ€˜simpleโ€™.

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #23

                    My answer:

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                    • KlausK Online
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                      Klaus
                      wrote on last edited by Klaus
                      #24

                      Nice! I'd add a little argument why the two angles you denote by theta are equal.

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                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                        #25

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                        Ok. Angles 1 and 2 summed together obviously = 180 degrees, but then so do 2 and 3.

                        If 1+2=180, and 1+3=180, then 2=180-1 and 3=180-1 so 1 and 3 are equal.

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