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  • JollyJ Jolly

    Maybe it wasn't on the official schedule...

    https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/biden-campaign-says-burisma-meeting-not-on-official-schedule/

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    George K
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    #15

    @Jolly said in Quid pro Joe?:

    Maybe it wasn't on the official schedule...

    https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/biden-campaign-says-burisma-meeting-not-on-official-schedule/

    Ahem....

    alt text

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #16

      Snort....

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • MikM Offline
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        Mik
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        #17

        This is the kind of bullshit that makes bullets fly.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #18

          Let me reiterate. I have no idea how valid the general discharged cocaine-addicted Hunter Biden story is.

          The outrage is that our social "media" is censoring this is beyond outrage, particularly when stories about the "Dossier" and other stuff passed their muster.

          It's time a reckoning. Are they publishers or platforms?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #19

            Platforms.

            Beyond a shadow of a doubt.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Platforms.

              Beyond a shadow of a doubt.

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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #20

              @Jolly said in Quid pro Joe?:

              Platforms.

              Beyond a shadow of a doubt.

              As Ax and others have said, "If you don't like what Facebook and Twitter are doing, establish your own platform."

              It's a nice concept, but these two behemoths are well-established, and everyone uses them. They are de-facto platforms, and they hold absolute censorship power over those who post on those platforms.

              In the early 20th century, there were monopolies which controlled communications via copper wires. They controlled access, but not content.

              Today, content, what you say, is restricted.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #21

                Ax may say it, but Thomas weighed in today, saying it may be time to take a look at 230.

                That would be interesting...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Kincaid
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #22

                  Beware the Deep Fake.

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #23

                    It's amazing that this story broke so close to the election. They managed to suppress it for so long, and then....wow, amazing.

                    This, folks, is journalistic integrity at it's finest. Nice going, NYPost!

                    I was only joking

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                    • George KG George K

                      @Jolly said in Quid pro Joe?:

                      Platforms.

                      Beyond a shadow of a doubt.

                      As Ax and others have said, "If you don't like what Facebook and Twitter are doing, establish your own platform."

                      It's a nice concept, but these two behemoths are well-established, and everyone uses them. They are de-facto platforms, and they hold absolute censorship power over those who post on those platforms.

                      In the early 20th century, there were monopolies which controlled communications via copper wires. They controlled access, but not content.

                      Today, content, what you say, is restricted.

                      AxtremusA Away
                      AxtremusA Away
                      Axtremus
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #24

                      @George-K said in Quid pro Joe?:

                      @Jolly said in Quid pro Joe?:

                      Platforms.

                      Beyond a shadow of a doubt.

                      As Ax and others have said, "If you don't like what Facebook and Twitter are doing, establish your own platform."

                      It's a nice concept, but these two behemoths are well-established, and everyone uses them. They are de-facto platforms, and they hold absolute censorship power over those who post on those platforms.

                      In the early 20th century, there were monopolies which controlled communications via copper wires. They controlled access, but not content.

                      Today, content, what you say, is restricted.

                      They are private businesses. It’s pitiful to see “conservatives” like @Jolly who argued that a cake baker should be allowed to refuse baking a wedding cake for same-sex wedding now wants to deny other private businesses the right to refuse publishing/replicating specific contents using their private platforms. The likes of Twitter and Facebook don’t owe you shit.

                      I am sympathetic to anti-monopoly arguments to break these behemoths into separate, smaller businesses. You are welcome to take your media consummation business elsewhere. You are welcome to build competing businesses. But I have no sympathy for giving you power to dictate how other private businesses should decide what opinions to publish/distribute on their platform.

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                      • KincaidK Kincaid

                        Beware the Deep Fake.

                        AxtremusA Away
                        AxtremusA Away
                        Axtremus
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #25

                        @Kincaid said in Quid pro Joe?:

                        Beware the Deep Fake.

                        +1
                        Would like to see independent verification/confirmation.

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          @Kincaid said in Quid pro Joe?:

                          Beware the Deep Fake.

                          +1
                          Would like to see independent verification/confirmation.

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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #26

                          @Axtremus said in Quid pro Joe?:

                          @Kincaid said in Quid pro Joe?:

                          Beware the Deep Fake.

                          +1
                          Would like to see independent verification/confirmation.

                          I saw a report today that claims that the Hunter Biden emails were hacked, and the "smoking gun" email was faked and inserted into the batch of actual emails.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @Axtremus said in Quid pro Joe?:

                            @Kincaid said in Quid pro Joe?:

                            Beware the Deep Fake.

                            +1
                            Would like to see independent verification/confirmation.

                            I saw a report today that claims that the Hunter Biden emails were hacked, and the "smoking gun" email was faked and inserted into the batch of actual emails.

                            AxtremusA Away
                            AxtremusA Away
                            Axtremus
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #27

                            @George-K said in Quid pro Joe?:

                            I saw a report today that claims that the Hunter Biden emails were hacked, and the "smoking gun" email was faked and inserted into the batch of actual emails.

                            Be thankful that Twitter’s policy slowed the spread of this potential “fake” then. Let there be investigations, let the journalists write up the full story, then the likes of Twitter and Facebook can distribute comments and opinions on the full story.

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                              #28

                              I think it would be a good idea for people to completely ignore any massive revelations concerning either candidate that mysteriously occur within a month of the election.

                              Common sense should indicate they're going to be bollocks.

                              Obviously, nobody ever posts massive revelations about their own guy, since they already know they're bollocks.

                              I was only joking

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                              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                @George-K said in Quid pro Joe?:

                                I saw a report today that claims that the Hunter Biden emails were hacked, and the "smoking gun" email was faked and inserted into the batch of actual emails.

                                Be thankful that Twitter’s policy slowed the spread of this potential “fake” then. Let there be investigations, let the journalists write up the full story, then the likes of Twitter and Facebook can distribute comments and opinions on the full story.

                                George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #29

                                @Axtremus said in Quid pro Joe?:

                                Be thankful that Twitter’s policy slowed the spread of this potential “fake” then.

                                You mean like the Steele dossier which was touted for years?

                                Chuck Ross (Daily Caller) just posted a series of tweets on things that have been proven to be false. Twitter hasn't taken them down, and it's been over 17 hours:

                                https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1316460585891123201.html

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                                AxtremusA 1 Reply Last reply
                                • George KG George K

                                  @Axtremus said in Quid pro Joe?:

                                  Be thankful that Twitter’s policy slowed the spread of this potential “fake” then.

                                  You mean like the Steele dossier which was touted for years?

                                  Chuck Ross (Daily Caller) just posted a series of tweets on things that have been proven to be false. Twitter hasn't taken them down, and it's been over 17 hours:

                                  https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1316460585891123201.html

                                  AxtremusA Away
                                  AxtremusA Away
                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #30

                                  @George-K said in Quid pro Joe?:

                                  @Axtremus said in Quid pro Joe?:

                                  Be thankful that Twitter’s policy slowed the spread of this potential “fake” then.

                                  You mean like the Steele dossier which was touted for years?

                                  Chuck Ross (Daily Caller) just posted a series of tweets on things that have been proven to be false. Twitter hasn't taken them down, and it's been over 17 hours:

                                  https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1316460585891123201.html

                                  The “Steele dossier” itself is real, nobody doctored up a document and says it’s created by Steele. This is different from the (allegedly) fabricated email that some unknown person put together and falsely attribute to people who never sent or received that email.

                                  You would not complain about Twitter leaving posts and images of, say, old/historical research publications whose results have since been proven wrong — this is your Steele dossier analogy. Some anonymous person fabricating a document and claim that it’s “historical document” (e.g., faked Dead Sea Scroll, faked missing paintings/manuscripts from a long dead famous artist/composer), that’s an entirely different matter — this is your “fake email” analogy.

                                  Even without that distinction, the argument that Twitter is a private business that is still free to regulate the content carried on their private platform in anyway they see fit (including the use of double standards or no standard at all) still stands.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @Axtremus said in Quid pro Joe?:

                                    @Kincaid said in Quid pro Joe?:

                                    Beware the Deep Fake.

                                    +1
                                    Would like to see independent verification/confirmation.

                                    I saw a report today that claims that the Hunter Biden emails were hacked, and the "smoking gun" email was faked and inserted into the batch of actual emails.

                                    JollyJ Offline
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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by Jolly
                                    #31

                                    @George-K said in Quid pro Joe?:

                                    @Axtremus said in Quid pro Joe?:

                                    @Kincaid said in Quid pro Joe?:

                                    Beware the Deep Fake.

                                    +1
                                    Would like to see independent verification/confirmation.

                                    I saw a report today that claims that the Hunter Biden emails were hacked, and the "smoking gun" email was faked and inserted into the batch of actual emails.

                                    That's going to be the Dem line.

                                    Whether it's true or not.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                      @George-K said in Quid pro Joe?:

                                      @Jolly said in Quid pro Joe?:

                                      Platforms.

                                      Beyond a shadow of a doubt.

                                      As Ax and others have said, "If you don't like what Facebook and Twitter are doing, establish your own platform."

                                      It's a nice concept, but these two behemoths are well-established, and everyone uses them. They are de-facto platforms, and they hold absolute censorship power over those who post on those platforms.

                                      In the early 20th century, there were monopolies which controlled communications via copper wires. They controlled access, but not content.

                                      Today, content, what you say, is restricted.

                                      They are private businesses. It’s pitiful to see “conservatives” like @Jolly who argued that a cake baker should be allowed to refuse baking a wedding cake for same-sex wedding now wants to deny other private businesses the right to refuse publishing/replicating specific contents using their private platforms. The likes of Twitter and Facebook don’t owe you shit.

                                      I am sympathetic to anti-monopoly arguments to break these behemoths into separate, smaller businesses. You are welcome to take your media consummation business elsewhere. You are welcome to build competing businesses. But I have no sympathy for giving you power to dictate how other private businesses should decide what opinions to publish/distribute on their platform.

                                      JollyJ Offline
                                      JollyJ Offline
                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #32

                                      @Axtremus said in Quid pro Joe?:

                                      @George-K said in Quid pro Joe?:

                                      @Jolly said in Quid pro Joe?:

                                      Platforms.

                                      Beyond a shadow of a doubt.

                                      As Ax and others have said, "If you don't like what Facebook and Twitter are doing, establish your own platform."

                                      It's a nice concept, but these two behemoths are well-established, and everyone uses them. They are de-facto platforms, and they hold absolute censorship power over those who post on those platforms.

                                      In the early 20th century, there were monopolies which controlled communications via copper wires. They controlled access, but not content.

                                      Today, content, what you say, is restricted.

                                      They are private businesses. It’s pitiful to see “conservatives” like @Jolly who argued that a cake baker should be allowed to refuse baking a wedding cake for same-sex wedding now wants to deny other private businesses the right to refuse publishing/replicating specific contents using their private platforms. The likes of Twitter and Facebook don’t owe you shit.

                                      I am sympathetic to anti-monopoly arguments to break these behemoths into separate, smaller businesses. You are welcome to take your media consummation business elsewhere. You are welcome to build competing businesses. But I have no sympathy for giving you power to dictate how other private businesses should decide what opinions to publish/distribute on their platform.

                                      Justice Thomas disagrees with you.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #33

                                        Frum's take:

                                        You were warned.

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                                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                          @George-K said in Quid pro Joe?:

                                          @Jolly said in Quid pro Joe?:

                                          Platforms.

                                          Beyond a shadow of a doubt.

                                          As Ax and others have said, "If you don't like what Facebook and Twitter are doing, establish your own platform."

                                          It's a nice concept, but these two behemoths are well-established, and everyone uses them. They are de-facto platforms, and they hold absolute censorship power over those who post on those platforms.

                                          In the early 20th century, there were monopolies which controlled communications via copper wires. They controlled access, but not content.

                                          Today, content, what you say, is restricted.

                                          They are private businesses. It’s pitiful to see “conservatives” like @Jolly who argued that a cake baker should be allowed to refuse baking a wedding cake for same-sex wedding now wants to deny other private businesses the right to refuse publishing/replicating specific contents using their private platforms. The likes of Twitter and Facebook don’t owe you shit.

                                          I am sympathetic to anti-monopoly arguments to break these behemoths into separate, smaller businesses. You are welcome to take your media consummation business elsewhere. You are welcome to build competing businesses. But I have no sympathy for giving you power to dictate how other private businesses should decide what opinions to publish/distribute on their platform.

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                                          Larry
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #34

                                          @Axtremus said in Quid pro Joe?:

                                          @George-K said in Quid pro Joe?:

                                          @Jolly said in Quid pro Joe?:

                                          Platforms.

                                          Beyond a shadow of a doubt.

                                          As Ax and others have said, "If you don't like what Facebook and Twitter are doing, establish your own platform."

                                          It's a nice concept, but these two behemoths are well-established, and everyone uses them. They are de-facto platforms, and they hold absolute censorship power over those who post on those platforms.

                                          In the early 20th century, there were monopolies which controlled communications via copper wires. They controlled access, but not content.

                                          Today, content, what you say, is restricted.

                                          They are private businesses. It’s pitiful to see “conservatives” like @Jolly who argued that a cake baker should be allowed to refuse baking a wedding cake for same-sex wedding now wants to deny other private businesses the right to refuse publishing/replicating specific contents using their private platforms. The likes of Twitter and Facebook don’t owe you shit.

                                          I am sympathetic to anti-monopoly arguments to break these behemoths into separate, smaller businesses. You are welcome to take your media consummation business elsewhere. You are welcome to build competing businesses. But I have no sympathy for giving you power to dictate how other private businesses should decide what opinions to publish/distribute on their platform.

                                          You never cease to amaze me at just how stupid you are.

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