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    Jolly
    wrote on 14 Oct 2020, 22:37 last edited by
    #1

    I'm not real sure, although I've worked with residents from a buttload of places.

    I'm going to assume America, Canada, Western Europe and Japan.

    Am I close?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Copper
      wrote on 14 Oct 2020, 22:54 last edited by
      #2

      The First Lady soon may be a doctor.

      Wouldn't that make her the best doctor?

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      • C Copper
        14 Oct 2020, 22:54

        The First Lady soon may be a doctor.

        Wouldn't that make her the best doctor?

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        George K
        wrote on 14 Oct 2020, 22:59 last edited by
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        @Copper said in The Best Doctors:

        The First Lady soon may be a doctor.

        Wouldn't that make her the best doctor?

        Because education matters.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Copper
          wrote on 14 Oct 2020, 23:04 last edited by
          #4

          It is so easy to make GK post a reply.

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            14 Oct 2020, 23:04

            It is so easy to make GK post a reply.

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            George K
            wrote on 14 Oct 2020, 23:08 last edited by
            #5

            @Copper said in The Best Doctors:

            It is so easy to make GK post a reply.

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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • G George K
              14 Oct 2020, 22:59

              @Copper said in The Best Doctors:

              The First Lady soon may be a doctor.

              Wouldn't that make her the best doctor?

              Because education matters.

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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on 15 Oct 2020, 01:03 last edited by
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              @George-K said in The Best Doctors:

              @Copper said in The Best Doctors:

              The First Lady soon may be a doctor.

              Wouldn't that make her the best doctor?

              Because education matters.

              For sure. Overseas, it is quite prestigious to show that your doctor was "US trained"

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              • T taiwan_girl
                15 Oct 2020, 01:03

                @George-K said in The Best Doctors:

                @Copper said in The Best Doctors:

                The First Lady soon may be a doctor.

                Wouldn't that make her the best doctor?

                Because education matters.

                For sure. Overseas, it is quite prestigious to show that your doctor was "US trained"

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                George K
                wrote on 15 Oct 2020, 01:08 last edited by
                #7

                @taiwan_girl said in The Best Doctors:

                it is quite prestigious to show that your doctor was "US trained"

                Really? That's interesting. I had no idea.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • G George K
                  15 Oct 2020, 01:08

                  @taiwan_girl said in The Best Doctors:

                  it is quite prestigious to show that your doctor was "US trained"

                  Really? That's interesting. I had no idea.

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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on 15 Oct 2020, 01:26 last edited by
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                  @George-K said in The Best Doctors:

                  @taiwan_girl said in The Best Doctors:

                  it is quite prestigious to show that your doctor was "US trained"

                  Really? That's interesting. I had no idea.

                  Yes, for sure. For example, Singapore and Thailand are active promoteing "medical tourism", where foreign customers (middle east, europe, US) can have non-emergency things done in those countries and usually lower prices than US. The top hospitals that do this will on their adverts say that the doctors are "US trained".

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                  • T taiwan_girl
                    15 Oct 2020, 01:26

                    @George-K said in The Best Doctors:

                    @taiwan_girl said in The Best Doctors:

                    it is quite prestigious to show that your doctor was "US trained"

                    Really? That's interesting. I had no idea.

                    Yes, for sure. For example, Singapore and Thailand are active promoteing "medical tourism", where foreign customers (middle east, europe, US) can have non-emergency things done in those countries and usually lower prices than US. The top hospitals that do this will on their adverts say that the doctors are "US trained".

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                    George K
                    wrote on 15 Oct 2020, 01:47 last edited by
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                    @taiwan_girl said in The Best Doctors:

                    @George-K said in The Best Doctors:

                    @taiwan_girl said in The Best Doctors:

                    it is quite prestigious to show that your doctor was "US trained"

                    Really? That's interesting. I had no idea.

                    Yes, for sure.

                    Why do you think that is? Is the perception that "US trained" docs are somehow better? THat's not my experience, of course, but I find it interesting that you say that that's what a lot of people use as an advertising ploy.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • G George K
                      15 Oct 2020, 01:47

                      @taiwan_girl said in The Best Doctors:

                      @George-K said in The Best Doctors:

                      @taiwan_girl said in The Best Doctors:

                      it is quite prestigious to show that your doctor was "US trained"

                      Really? That's interesting. I had no idea.

                      Yes, for sure.

                      Why do you think that is? Is the perception that "US trained" docs are somehow better? THat's not my experience, of course, but I find it interesting that you say that that's what a lot of people use as an advertising ploy.

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                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote on 15 Oct 2020, 02:01 last edited by
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                      @George-K said in The Best Doctors:

                      Is the perception that "US trained" docs are somehow better?

                      Yes. (Something I believe also LOL)

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                      • T taiwan_girl
                        15 Oct 2020, 02:01

                        @George-K said in The Best Doctors:

                        Is the perception that "US trained" docs are somehow better?

                        Yes. (Something I believe also LOL)

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                        George K
                        wrote on 15 Oct 2020, 02:06 last edited by
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                        @taiwan_girl said in The Best Doctors:

                        @George-K said in The Best Doctors:

                        Is the perception that "US trained" docs are somehow better?

                        Yes. (Something I believe also LOL)

                        I've worked with a lot of foreign-trained docs. Everywhere from Australia, New Zealand, Pakistan, the UK, Germany and India.

                        I've seen no difference in quality of care. I find it interesting that the perception differs.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • G George K
                          15 Oct 2020, 02:06

                          @taiwan_girl said in The Best Doctors:

                          @George-K said in The Best Doctors:

                          Is the perception that "US trained" docs are somehow better?

                          Yes. (Something I believe also LOL)

                          I've worked with a lot of foreign-trained docs. Everywhere from Australia, New Zealand, Pakistan, the UK, Germany and India.

                          I've seen no difference in quality of care. I find it interesting that the perception differs.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 15 Oct 2020, 02:20 last edited by
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                          @George-K said in The Best Doctors:

                          @taiwan_girl said in The Best Doctors:

                          @George-K said in The Best Doctors:

                          Is the perception that "US trained" docs are somehow better?

                          Yes. (Something I believe also LOL)

                          I've worked with a lot of foreign-trained docs. Everywhere from Australia, New Zealand, Pakistan, the UK, Germany and India.

                          I've seen no difference in quality of care. I find it interesting that the perception differs.

                          I dunno. Sometimes language barriers cause problens...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            kluurs
                            wrote on 15 Oct 2020, 03:17 last edited by
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                            In the associaiton world, international attendees LOVE certificates and US medical sociey logoed merchandise - all the stuff that US folks could care less about.

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                            • C Copper
                              14 Oct 2020, 22:54

                              The First Lady soon may be a doctor.

                              Wouldn't that make her the best doctor?

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 15 Oct 2020, 03:56 last edited by
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                              @Copper said in The Best Doctors:

                              The First Lady soon may be a doctor.

                              Wouldn't that make her the best doctor?

                              Maybe educator is a better label. Think about it:

                              Hillary Clinton: Lawyer
                              Laura Bush: Educator
                              Michelle Obama: Lawyer
                              Melania Trump: Soft porn model
                              Jill Biden: Educator

                              Sort of a return to normalcy. Just what the voters want.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 15 Oct 2020, 11:03 last edited by
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                                Stay classy, Jon.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • T taiwan_girl
                                  15 Oct 2020, 01:26

                                  @George-K said in The Best Doctors:

                                  @taiwan_girl said in The Best Doctors:

                                  it is quite prestigious to show that your doctor was "US trained"

                                  Really? That's interesting. I had no idea.

                                  Yes, for sure. For example, Singapore and Thailand are active promoteing "medical tourism", where foreign customers (middle east, europe, US) can have non-emergency things done in those countries and usually lower prices than US. The top hospitals that do this will on their adverts say that the doctors are "US trained".

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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on 15 Oct 2020, 12:48 last edited by
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                                  @taiwan_girl said in The Best Doctors:

                                  Yes, for sure. For example, Singapore and Thailand are active promoteing "medical tourism", where foreign customers (middle east, europe, US) can have non-emergency things done in those countries and usually lower prices than US. The top hospitals that do this will on their adverts say that the doctors are "US trained".

                                  1. If a large enough proportion of the “medical tourists” come from the US anyway, it’s probably reassuring to them that they get the doctors trained by their own country.

                                  2. The US is probably one of the few countries that train a lot more doctors (specialists, if not general practitioners) than those needed to serve domestics needs, so we have more doctors to “export” anyway.

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                                  • J jon-nyc
                                    15 Oct 2020, 03:56

                                    @Copper said in The Best Doctors:

                                    The First Lady soon may be a doctor.

                                    Wouldn't that make her the best doctor?

                                    Maybe educator is a better label. Think about it:

                                    Hillary Clinton: Lawyer
                                    Laura Bush: Educator
                                    Michelle Obama: Lawyer
                                    Melania Trump: Soft porn model
                                    Jill Biden: Educator

                                    Sort of a return to normalcy. Just what the voters want.

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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on 15 Oct 2020, 12:57 last edited by
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                                    @jon-nyc said in The Best Doctors:

                                    Melania Trump: Soft porn model

                                    I appreciate having a First Lady with that life experience. I hope it can help reduce the stigma against sex workers and sex work in general. Maybe someday we will also have more judges and elected leaders with this sort of life experiences that will let them be more empathetic to sex workers and can better represent their interests. The nation will be stronger for having broader range of life experiences represented in its leadership rank.

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                                    • A Axtremus
                                      15 Oct 2020, 12:48

                                      @taiwan_girl said in The Best Doctors:

                                      Yes, for sure. For example, Singapore and Thailand are active promoteing "medical tourism", where foreign customers (middle east, europe, US) can have non-emergency things done in those countries and usually lower prices than US. The top hospitals that do this will on their adverts say that the doctors are "US trained".

                                      1. If a large enough proportion of the “medical tourists” come from the US anyway, it’s probably reassuring to them that they get the doctors trained by their own country.

                                      2. The US is probably one of the few countries that train a lot more doctors (specialists, if not general practitioners) than those needed to serve domestics needs, so we have more doctors to “export” anyway.

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                                      bachophile
                                      wrote on 15 Oct 2020, 14:55 last edited by
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                                      @Axtremus actually I think there is a shortage of home grown American doctors which is why there are so many foreign medical grads finding tons of positions in the US.

                                      as for quality, wide spectrum. No generalizations.

                                      Interestingly when I did my fellowship in Canada, the Canadians I worked with felt that the Americans looked down on them as foreigners, while they tried to pass themselves off as just as “white” ( that’s figurative not related to race) as true Americans.

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