"This (virus) is not something the citizens of the US need to be worried about."
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@George-K I’ve started paying a little more critical attention to Dr. Fauci.
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Minimizing the virus:
January - Short-sighted.
Early February - Stupid.
Late February - Unforgivable.
Early March - Criminally negligent
Late March - Malevolent@jon-nyc said in "This (virus) is not something the citizens of the US need to be worried about.":
Minimizing the virus:
January - Short-sighted.
Early February - Stupid.
Late February - Unforgivable.
Early March - Criminally negligent
Late March - MalevolentActually this is too harsh for early Jan and too easy on late Jan. I think minimal concern about the virus was reasonable up to the Wuhan lockdown, which I want to say was January 23rd.
That was when it was very obviously a big deal, and obvious that human to human transmission was very evident to the Chinese.
After January 23rd, it was stupid to minimize it.
By late February South Korea was showing a doubling every couple of days too. By the very end of February Italy was in the same boat.
That’s when downplaying it went from stupid to criminally negligent.
Only non-witches get due process.
- Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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Brit wants us to watch it all the way through but he cut off all the detail and just showed the summary comment at the end. I’d love to see the whole video.
Also George you cut out ‘right now’ from his comment.
Also this was before the lockdown. All of China had maybe 300 cases.
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O'Reilly gives an assessment on Trump in the second half. Is he right?
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On Feb 17, he said the risk is low, though, it "could evolve" into a global pandemic.
We're taking it seriously, and influenza is a bigger risk.
Link to videoHe couches his comments with a lot of "mights," but as of Feb 17, he said not to worry.
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Shame on him.
Reminds me of a conversation I had with a research pulmonologist from National Jewish at a dinner that same week.
He was minimizing it based on case count but also saying we can’t trust the data. My reply was we might not have good data, but we had good information, namely that China had at least partially locked down three quarters of a billion people.
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Shame on him.
Reminds me of a conversation I had with a research pulmonologist from National Jewish at a dinner that same week.
He was minimizing it based on case count but also saying we can’t trust the data. My reply was we might not have good data, but we had good information, namely that China had at least partially locked down three quarters of a billion people.
@jon-nyc said in "This (virus) is not something the citizens of the US need to be worried about.":
Shame on him.
Reminds me of a conversation I had with a research pulmonologist from National Jewish at a dinner that same week.
He was minimizing it based on case count but also saying we can’t trust the data. My reply was we might not have good data, but we had good information, namely that China had at least partially locked down three quarters of a billion people.
Your earlier comment about China only having 300+ cases in the third week of January in the light of Fauci's comment at that time is valid. However, three weeks later, when things are shut down, he should have known better. I can only assume, hope, that he had better information than the rest of us about what was going on in China.
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Can we just reflect for a minute on just how much of a fucking tool Brit Hume is for posting that?
@jon-nyc said in "This (virus) is not something the citizens of the US need to be worried about.":
Can we just reflect for a minute on just how much of a fucking tool Brit Hume is for posting that?
Sure. Only if we agree that Nancy Pelosi is a fool for telling people, on Feb 24 to come to Chinatown (is that racist, by the way?).
And BIll de Blasio, on March 10 telling people not to worry because it's a "misperception" that the virus hangs in the air.
If you want to condemn the media for false reporting, perhaps the blame should rest even more heavily on the shoulders of those (like Trump, to be sure) in government who minimized the risk, and encouraged unsafe behaviors.
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@jon-nyc said in "This (virus) is not something the citizens of the US need to be worried about.":
Minimizing the virus:
January - Short-sighted.
Early February - Stupid.
Late February - Unforgivable.
Early March - Criminally negligent
Late March - MalevolentActually this is too harsh for early Jan and too easy on late Jan. I think minimal concern about the virus was reasonable up to the Wuhan lockdown, which I want to say was January 23rd.
That was when it was very obviously a big deal, and obvious that human to human transmission was very evident to the Chinese.
After January 23rd, it was stupid to minimize it.
By late February South Korea was showing a doubling every couple of days too. By the very end of February Italy was in the same boat.
That’s when downplaying it went from stupid to criminally negligent.
@jon-nyc said in "This (virus) is not something the citizens of the US need to be worried about.":
@jon-nyc said in "This (virus) is not something the citizens of the US need to be worried about.":
Minimizing the virus:
January - Short-sighted.
Early February - Stupid.
Late February - Unforgivable.
Early March - Criminally negligent
Late March - MalevolentActually this is too harsh for early Jan and too easy on late Jan. I think minimal concern about the virus was reasonable up to the Wuhan lockdown, which I want to say was January 23rd.
That was when it was very obviously a big deal, and obvious that human to human transmission was very evident to the Chinese.
After January 23rd, it was stupid to minimize it.
By late February South Korea was showing a doubling every couple of days too. By the very end of February Italy was in the same boat.
That’s when downplaying it went from stupid to criminally negligent.
April 4 - The COVID death toll is roughly 19% of the regular flu
The COVID death toll will probably grow
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What’s interesting is that the current right wing effort to discredit Fauci, which no doubt is the source of these clips, is ultimately motivated by a concern that he’s championing too strong a reaction.
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What’s interesting is that the current right wing effort to discredit Fauci, which no doubt is the source of these clips, is ultimately motivated by a concern that he’s championing too strong a reaction.
@jon-nyc said in "This (virus) is not something the citizens of the US need to be worried about.":
What’s interesting is that the current right wing effort to discredit Fauci, which no doubt is the source of these clips, is ultimately motivated by a concern that he’s championing too strong a reaction.
The effort aligns his position more closely to Mr Trump’s
Therefore it is credit, not discredit
