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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
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    #18

    The strategy of electing Trump-like candidates to defeat other extremes needs to be examined with regard to the results obtained to date.

    Is the country in a better place than it was four years ago? Is it more united? Is it more peaceful? Is it less prone to extremism?

    As Churchill famously said, "However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results".

    I was only joking

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #19

      Well, Texas now has a sizable chunk of Californicators voting. One can only hope as they breathe air with more freedom in it, their systems (and voting habits) will adjust.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        @Aqua-Letifer To defeat the post-liberal left you need the Jonathan Chaits and Matt Iglesiases to win out over the Ibrahm Kendis and Robin DiAngelos. Trump vocally joining team Chait doesn’t push that outcome along.

        As a trivial example but illuminating all the same, it would have been much easier for me to make the case against AFFH to my local community before Trump got vocal about it. Before it could have been an argument about density and congestion, now I’d be viewed as trying to protect the suburbs from people of color.

        Same with a PTA discussion about CRT-infused “diversity” curriculum. Six months ago it would have been a lot easier to have a conversation on the content of the ideas themselves, now I fear it would simply be a question of which side are you on.

        Now you might say you don’t need the center left to tame the far left, you’ll just defeat them outright.

        There I’d say you’re not being realistic. The GOP was demographically challenged even before Trumpism expelled all but the true believers. Our constitutional quirks might allow minoritarian rule for a while, but it’s not really sustainable. Hell, Texas and is turning purple and their Governor is taking naked steps at disenfranchising people. But he won’t keep his finger in that dam for long.

        Aqua LetiferA Offline
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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on last edited by
        #20

        @jon-nyc said in Oh Jesus:

        As a trivial example but illuminating all the same, it would have been much easier for me to make the case against AFFH to my local community before Trump got vocal about it. Before it could have been an argument about density and congestion, now I’d be viewed as trying to protect the suburbs from people of color.

        Situations like that are exactly what need to be examined.

        I understand that anything Trump's vocal about becomes radioactive, but I don't see how voting for the guy the radicals want on the other side is a good idea, especially when it's that side that's burning down buildings and destroying the reputations of randos daily, not the right.

        It'd be better if we didn't have someone so divisive to represent the GOP, but that's what we have.

        Please love yourself.

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          The strategy of electing Trump-like candidates to defeat other extremes needs to be examined with regard to the results obtained to date.

          Is the country in a better place than it was four years ago? Is it more united? Is it more peaceful? Is it less prone to extremism?

          As Churchill famously said, "However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results".

          Aqua LetiferA Offline
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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on last edited by
          #21

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Oh Jesus:

          The strategy of electing Trump-like candidates to defeat other extremes needs to be examined with regard to the results obtained to date.

          I don't like the strategy at all, I think it's stupid and damaging. But he's president. That means he runs. So the choices are Trump and Biden.

          I agree with jon that it's going to take moderates to push back against the radical left. But how is a Biden administration going to lead to that?

          Please love yourself.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Oh Jesus:

            The strategy of electing Trump-like candidates to defeat other extremes needs to be examined with regard to the results obtained to date.

            I don't like the strategy at all, I think it's stupid and damaging. But he's president. That means he runs. So the choices are Trump and Biden.

            I agree with jon that it's going to take moderates to push back against the radical left. But how is a Biden administration going to lead to that?

            Doctor PhibesD Offline
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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
            #22

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Oh Jesus:

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Oh Jesus:

            The strategy of electing Trump-like candidates to defeat other extremes needs to be examined with regard to the results obtained to date.

            I don't like the strategy at all, I think it's stupid and damaging. But he's president. That means he runs. So the choices are Trump and Biden.

            I agree with jon that it's going to take moderates to push back against the radical left. But how is a Biden administration going to lead to that?

            As far as I can tell, Biden is moderate, but weak.

            What you need is Tony Blair.

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAARGHHHH!

            I was only joking

            JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Oh Jesus:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Oh Jesus:

              The strategy of electing Trump-like candidates to defeat other extremes needs to be examined with regard to the results obtained to date.

              I don't like the strategy at all, I think it's stupid and damaging. But he's president. That means he runs. So the choices are Trump and Biden.

              I agree with jon that it's going to take moderates to push back against the radical left. But how is a Biden administration going to lead to that?

              As far as I can tell, Biden is moderate, but weak.

              What you need is Tony Blair.

              HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAARGHHHH!

              JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
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              #23

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Oh Jesus:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Oh Jesus:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Oh Jesus:

              The strategy of electing Trump-like candidates to defeat other extremes needs to be examined with regard to the results obtained to date.

              I don't like the strategy at all, I think it's stupid and damaging. But he's president. That means he runs. So the choices are Trump and Biden.

              I agree with jon that it's going to take moderates to push back against the radical left. But how is a Biden administration going to lead to that?

              Biden is moderate, but weak.

              What you need is Tony Blair.

              HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAARGHHHH!

              Biden may not even be here in 24 months. Ask yourself what would Harris do?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                Doctor Phibes
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                #24

                Yeah, you said Hillary was at death's door 4 years ago, too.

                Trump might not be here in 4 years, either. I'm not particularly fond of Mike Pence.

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  Yeah, you said Hillary was at death's door 4 years ago, too.

                  Trump might not be here in 4 years, either. I'm not particularly fond of Mike Pence.

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                  Jolly
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                  #25

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Oh Jesus:

                  Yeah, you said Hillary was at death's door 4 years ago, too.

                  Trump might not be here in 4 years, either.

                  I said Hillary was not well. She wasn't. She also was 68, not 78.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
                    Doctor PhibesD Offline
                    Doctor Phibes
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                    #26

                    I must admit, I don't understand the American penchant for electing geriatrics.

                    Everybody else retires at 65. I think it's a good idea.

                    I was only joking

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #27

                      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/09/business/yelp-racism.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

                      The company, which offers a platform for users to rate places like restaurants, small businesses and popular tourist sites, said in a statement on Thursday that it would use a “business accused of racist behavior” alert when there was “resounding evidence” that a business owner or employee had taken racist actions, including the use of racist slurs or symbols. This alert will always link to a news article from a “credible media outlet,” Yelp said, without elaborating on which news organizations they considered to be credible or how it defined “resounding evidence.”

                      Yelp’s announcement raised questions about how the company will enforce the initiative — and how it will ensure that businesses were not falsely associated with racism or the target of defamatory reviews, which can significantly damage a business. Companies like Google and Facebook have also grappled with the difficult issues of moderating users on their online platforms.

                      Hey, Yelp! Is Business Insider a "credible media outlet?"

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @Aqua-Letifer To defeat the post-liberal left you need the Jonathan Chaits and Matt Iglesiases to win out over the Ibrahm Kendis and Robin DiAngelos. Trump vocally joining team Chait doesn’t push that outcome along.

                        As a trivial example but illuminating all the same, it would have been much easier for me to make the case against AFFH to my local community before Trump got vocal about it. Before it could have been an argument about density and congestion, now I’d be viewed as trying to protect the suburbs from people of color.

                        Same with a PTA discussion about CRT-infused “diversity” curriculum. Six months ago it would have been a lot easier to have a conversation on the content of the ideas themselves, now I fear it would simply be a question of which side are you on.

                        Now you might say you don’t need the center left to tame the far left, you’ll just defeat them outright.

                        There I’d say you’re not being realistic. The GOP was demographically challenged even before Trumpism expelled all but the true believers. Our constitutional quirks might allow minoritarian rule for a while, but it’s not really sustainable. Hell, Texas and is turning purple and their Governor is taking naked steps at disenfranchising people. But he won’t keep his finger in that dam for long.

                        jon-nycJ Offline
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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #28

                        @jon-nyc said in Oh Jesus:

                        Hell, Texas and is turning purple and their Governor is taking naked steps at disenfranchising people.

                        Good news!!!

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          #29

                          And so, it begins continues:

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            #30

                            I heard Joe Biden is a racist.

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                            • CopperC Copper

                              I heard Joe Biden is a racist.

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                              George KG Offline
                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #31

                              @Copper said in Oh Jesus:

                              I heard Joe Biden is a racist.

                              Post it on Yelp!

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                LuFins Dad
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                                #32

                                A competitor is advertising a Columbus Day Sale. ShouldI report them?

                                The Brad

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                                  Loki
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                                  #33

                                  Hey Yelp ever read 1984, checked out Chinese minders, various secret police?

                                  Vigilante justice and lynching.

                                  There need to be laws against this.

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