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10/15 Trump/Biden debate will be virtual

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  • X xenon

    @Jolly said in 10/15 Trump/Biden debate will be virtual:

    I wouldn't say it's smart.

    Biden is creating a new scarlet letter, except this one is a "C". I think it also reinforces the Bunker Theory...How can you govern in a bunker?

    If by bunker you mean "running over video conferencing" - I think pretty much every F500 company is being run from a bunker right now.

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    @xenon said in 10/15 Trump/Biden debate will be virtual:

    @Jolly said in 10/15 Trump/Biden debate will be virtual:

    I wouldn't say it's smart.

    Biden is creating a new scarlet letter, except this one is a "C". I think it also reinforces the Bunker Theory...How can you govern in a bunker?

    If by bunker you mean "running over video conferencing" - I think pretty much every F500 company is being run from a bunker right now.

    You don't run a country from a bunker.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

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      He’s not running the country, he’s running for president. And his deliberate strategy of letting Trump run against himself seems to be paying off. If the polls are any indication.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        He’s not running the country, he’s running for president. And his deliberate strategy of letting Trump run against himself seems to be paying off. If the polls are any indication.

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        @jon-nyc said in 10/15 Trump/Biden debate will be virtual:

        He’s not running the country, he’s running for president. And his deliberate strategy of letting Trump run against himself seems to be paying off. If the polls are any indication.

        Agree.

        As I say before, the best campaigner for VP Biden is President Trump.

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          Yep, now Trump has backtracked.

          He’s such a whiny fucking bitch. The little snowflake did this in 2016 too.

          I hope Biden stays firm.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            And the debate commission too.

            Down 10 points with three weeks left, Trump’s a beggar, not a chooser. He shouldn’t have bluffed if he didn’t want to have it called.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Yep, now Trump has backtracked.

              He’s such a whiny fucking bitch. The little snowflake did this in 2016 too.

              I hope Biden stays firm.

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              @jon-nyc said in 10/15 Trump/Biden debate will be virtual:

              Yep, now Trump has backtracked.

              He’s such a whiny fucking bitch. The little snowflake did this in 2016 too.

              I hope Biden stays firm.

              And just when one party had an opportunity to show the country it’s maturity...

              https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/08/politics/house-oversight-commission-president-health/index.html

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                And the debate commission too.

                Down 10 points with three weeks left, Trump’s a beggar, not a chooser. He shouldn’t have bluffed if he didn’t want to have it called.

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                @jon-nyc said in 10/15 Trump/Biden debate will be virtual:

                And the debate commission too.

                Down 10 points with three weeks left, Trump’s a beggar, not a chooser. He shouldn’t have bluffed if he didn’t want to have it called.

                @Jolly probably thinks it’s just a negotiation tactic.

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                  Trump is still a COVID-19 patient with potential to infect others. It would be highly irresponsible to do a “townhall” style debate in person with that contagion potential. Going virtual is the right and responsible call.

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                    His doctor says he’s totally safe.

                    This is the same doctor who thought it was “notable“ that antibodies could be detected in Trump’s blood 48 hours after they infused 8 fucking grams of them into his bloodstream.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      Dr. Anthony Fauci, the government’s top infectious disease expert, said two negative PCR lab tests 24 hours apart are a key factor in determining whether someone is still contagious.

                      “So, if the president goes 10 days without symptoms, and they do the tests that we were talking about, then you could make the assumption, based on good science, that he is not infected,” Fauci said Thursday on MSNBC.

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                        Yeah maybe the 22nd could be in person. But they’d need to enforce masks usage by his staff this time.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            2nd debate cancelled:

                            https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/09/politics/second-presidential-debate-canceled/index.html

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              I wonder what the up/down sides are for each candidate:

                              Biden: "Trump tested positive and was hospitalized with the virus. He's unreasonable and dangerous."

                              Trump: "Scully is a biased, self-confirmed Never-Trumper. I'm glad it's cancelled because it would never be fair. MAGA, baby!"

                              Also, most seem to think that Trump did himself more harm than good after the last debate. Minimizing exposure might minimize losses.

                              Me: "It's 2020. What the hell did you expect?"

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                I wonder what the revenue loss is for the networks and social media with the loss of 80m+ eyeballs.

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                                  Nate Silver:

                                  Our research on primary debates suggested that a debate is equivalent to something like six to 10 days of normal campaigning and news, in terms of how much they move the polls. So it’s as if Trump is taking a week off the clock in an election in which he trails by 10 points.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    Nate Silver:

                                    Our research on primary debates suggested that a debate is equivalent to something like six to 10 days of normal campaigning and news, in terms of how much they move the polls. So it’s as if Trump is taking a week off the clock in an election in which he trails by 10 points.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in 10/15 Trump/Biden debate will be virtual:

                                    Our research on PRIMAY debates

                                    Do they have similar data on presidential debates?

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      I doubt it or he’d cite it.

                                      Regardless of the number I like the analogy to extra time on the clock.

                                      Which underscores the monumental stupidity of Trump canceling to begin with.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        I get your point.

                                        I'd like to see data on how much final debates really change voters' minds.

                                        I'm not defending Trump's decision to do refuse, or the Commission's decision to cancel. Just wondering how much it will, ultimately, matter. To add to what I said earlier, Trump's supporters will say, "Fuck you! We don't need no debates." Biden's supporters will say, "He's a coward, and afraid to talk to us!"

                                        Do you think the cancellation will change anyone's mind?

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          I doubt it or he’d cite it.

                                          Regardless of the number I like the analogy to extra time on the clock.

                                          Which underscores the monumental stupidity of Trump canceling to begin with.

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                                          @jon-nyc said in 10/15 Trump/Biden debate will be virtual:

                                          I doubt it or he’d cite it.

                                          Regardless of the number I like the analogy to extra time on the clock.

                                          Which underscores the monumental stupidity of Trump canceling to begin with.

                                          He cancelled I would imagine because it was shaping up to be a setup. The moderator is a former Biden staffer or something to do with Biden, a man who has made it clear that he doesn't like Trump and is a Biden supporter. They want to arrange it where they can feed answers to Biden with a teleprompter.

                                          You either know that and are willing to trade your own integrity to support your politics, or you don't know that, which would be sad if I actually believed that. You know full well that it's an attempt by the democrats to cheat. So don't ever claim you're a centrist again.

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