Great Barrington Declaration
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Reading this I thought it must be from April. We don't have any lockdown policies. Our restaurants, schools, and cultural institutions are open. You can fly anywhere. Ok, no Carnegie Hall this year, but my son managed to get vaccinated all the same. We go to our doctors. Even our dentists.
Oh, and this is a nice political grunt, but epidemiologically illiterate:
People who are more at risk may participate if they wish, while society as a whole enjoys the protection conferred upon the vulnerable by those who have built up herd immunity.
“Don’t make me repeat myself”
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Reading this I thought it must be from April. We don't have any lockdown policies. Our restaurants, schools, and cultural institutions are open. You can fly anywhere. Ok, no Carnegie Hall this year, but my son managed to get vaccinated all the same. We go to our doctors. Even our dentists.
Oh, and this is a nice political grunt, but epidemiologically illiterate:
People who are more at risk may participate if they wish, while society as a whole enjoys the protection conferred upon the vulnerable by those who have built up herd immunity.
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We have six clusters, a couple of zip codes each, that are limiting house of worship capacity to either 25%, 33%, or 50% depending on their severity.
It’s making the news though.
@jon-nyc said in Great Barrington Declaration:
We have six clusters, a couple of zip codes each, that are limiting house of worship capacity to either 25%, 33%, or 50% depending on their severity.
So, is that a 'lockdown' or no?
Didn't I see a video of Cuomo threatening to shut down Catholic and Jewish houses of worship? That's not a 'lockdown?'
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"The most compassionate approach that balances the risks and benefits of reaching herd immunity, is to allow those who are at minimal risk of death to live their lives normally to build up immunity to the virus through natural infection, while better protecting those who are at highest risk. We call this Focused Protection. "
This makes sense, it could help a lot of people.
But first, is this a democrat or republican thing?
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Reading this I thought it must be from April. We don't have any lockdown policies. Our restaurants, schools, and cultural institutions are open. You can fly anywhere. Ok, no Carnegie Hall this year, but my son managed to get vaccinated all the same. We go to our doctors. Even our dentists.
Oh, and this is a nice political grunt, but epidemiologically illiterate:
People who are more at risk may participate if they wish, while society as a whole enjoys the protection conferred upon the vulnerable by those who have built up herd immunity.
@jon-nyc said in Great Barrington Declaration:
Reading this I thought it must be from April. We don't have any lockdown policies. Our restaurants, schools, and cultural institutions are open. You can fly anywhere. Ok, no Carnegie Hall this year, but my son managed to get vaccinated all the same. We go to our doctors. Even our dentists.
Oh, and this is a nice political grunt, but epidemiologically illiterate:
People who are more at risk may participate if they wish, while society as a whole enjoys the protection conferred upon the vulnerable by those who have built up herd immunity.
Haha. Restaurants are dead, airline travel is dead, entertainment is dead tourism is dead, college graduates have no jobs and most college kids are learning remotely.
I think I must misunderstand you.
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No you’re making the mistake so many Covid doves make, assuming all this is driven by policy instead of (mostly) by individual preferences.
It sometimes strikes me as a form of denial, like we could just will this thing away.
@jon-nyc said in Great Barrington Declaration:
No you’re making the mistake so many Covid doves make, assuming all this is driven by policy instead of (mostly) by individual preferences.
It sometimes strikes me as a form of denial, like we could just will this thing away.
I was much more afraid after 9/11 yet continued to get on planes and live a normal life as many felt it important to not let fear drive our lives. This was reinforced by messaging. I stay home now because that is what I hear 100 times a day to do.
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@jon-nyc said in Great Barrington Declaration:
No you’re making the mistake so many Covid doves make, assuming all this is driven by policy instead of (mostly) by individual preferences.
It sometimes strikes me as a form of denial, like we could just will this thing away.
I was much more afraid after 9/11 yet continued to get on planes and live a normal life as many felt it important to not let fear drive our lives. This was reinforced by messaging. I stay home now because that is what I hear 100 times a day to do.
@Loki said in Great Barrington Declaration:
@jon-nyc said in Great Barrington Declaration:
No you’re making the mistake so many Covid doves make, assuming all this is driven by policy instead of (mostly) by individual preferences.
It sometimes strikes me as a form of denial, like we could just will this thing away.
I was much more afraid after 9/11 yet continued to get on planes and live a normal life as many felt it important to not let fear drive our lives. This was reinforced by messaging. I stay home now because that is what I hear 100 times a day to do.
You were afraid of flying after 9/11? I’d think any highjacker in the US after 9/11 is liable to be ripped limb from limb.
That and a locked cockpit door.
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@Loki said in Great Barrington Declaration:
@jon-nyc said in Great Barrington Declaration:
No you’re making the mistake so many Covid doves make, assuming all this is driven by policy instead of (mostly) by individual preferences.
It sometimes strikes me as a form of denial, like we could just will this thing away.
I was much more afraid after 9/11 yet continued to get on planes and live a normal life as many felt it important to not let fear drive our lives. This was reinforced by messaging. I stay home now because that is what I hear 100 times a day to do.
You were afraid of flying after 9/11? I’d think any highjacker in the US after 9/11 is liable to be ripped limb from limb.
That and a locked cockpit door.
@xenon said in Great Barrington Declaration:
@Loki said in Great Barrington Declaration:
@jon-nyc said in Great Barrington Declaration:
No you’re making the mistake so many Covid doves make, assuming all this is driven by policy instead of (mostly) by individual preferences.
It sometimes strikes me as a form of denial, like we could just will this thing away.
I was much more afraid after 9/11 yet continued to get on planes and live a normal life as many felt it important to not let fear drive our lives. This was reinforced by messaging. I stay home now because that is what I hear 100 times a day to do.
You were afraid of flying after 9/11? I’d think any highjacker in the US after 9/11 is liable to be ripped limb from limb.
That and a locked cockpit door.
LOL Agree. When I first started to go to DPRK, people ask if I was afraid, as it was such a dangerous country. I reply that internally, it is probably the safest country in the world.
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@xenon said in Great Barrington Declaration:
@Loki said in Great Barrington Declaration:
@jon-nyc said in Great Barrington Declaration:
No you’re making the mistake so many Covid doves make, assuming all this is driven by policy instead of (mostly) by individual preferences.
It sometimes strikes me as a form of denial, like we could just will this thing away.
I was much more afraid after 9/11 yet continued to get on planes and live a normal life as many felt it important to not let fear drive our lives. This was reinforced by messaging. I stay home now because that is what I hear 100 times a day to do.
You were afraid of flying after 9/11? I’d think any highjacker in the US after 9/11 is liable to be ripped limb from limb.
That and a locked cockpit door.
LOL Agree. When I first started to go to DPRK, people ask if I was afraid, as it was such a dangerous country. I reply that internally, it is probably the safest country in the world.
@taiwan_girl said in Great Barrington Declaration:
@xenon said in Great Barrington Declaration:
@Loki said in Great Barrington Declaration:
@jon-nyc said in Great Barrington Declaration:
No you’re making the mistake so many Covid doves make, assuming all this is driven by policy instead of (mostly) by individual preferences.
It sometimes strikes me as a form of denial, like we could just will this thing away.
I was much more afraid after 9/11 yet continued to get on planes and live a normal life as many felt it important to not let fear drive our lives. This was reinforced by messaging. I stay home now because that is what I hear 100 times a day to do.
You were afraid of flying after 9/11? I’d think any highjacker in the US after 9/11 is liable to be ripped limb from limb.
That and a locked cockpit door.
LOL Agree. When I first started to go to DPRK, people ask if I was afraid, as it was such a dangerous country. I reply that internally, it is probably the safest country in the world.
Well there were about 5 of us on flights for a while so I’m not imagining things. I was one of the five.
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I flew on September 11, 2002.
It was easily the quietest flight I've ever been on. I tried to do it again a year later, but didn't manage to swing it.
I think people remember being a lot less scared than they actually were.
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I flew later in September to Toronto. 9/11 definitely affected me because the immigration guys were scouring through passports and they found my dubious trip to Cuba. I got pulled out of line and questioned. Thought I was going to miss my flight (recall the US has agents in Toronto and Montreal so you go through immigration and customs before boarding)
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I flew later in September to Toronto. 9/11 definitely affected me because the immigration guys were scouring through passports and they found my dubious trip to Cuba. I got pulled out of line and questioned. Thought I was going to miss my flight (recall the US has agents in Toronto and Montreal so you go through immigration and customs before boarding)
