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RCT of Vitamin D as Covid treatment

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    Again a winner, not a huge N but massive effect size in keeping hospitalized patients out of ICU

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960076020302764

    Of 50 patients treated with calcifediol, one required admission to the ICU (2%), while of 26 untreated patients, 13 required admission (50 %) p value X2 Fischer test p < 0.001.

    You were warned.

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      Note they were also treating with the hydroxychloroquine/azithromycin combo of drugs. No zinc.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Saw that. Both arms were though, so the effect shown here is the VitD.

        Or random noise, but that seems increasingly unlikely at this point.

        You were warned.

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          My question would be, is it the cocktail or the Vitamin D alone?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Next question...We're all those patients Vitamin D deficient?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Another take for combination therapy:

              https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/4032/icam

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Certainly need something. Remdesivir is a very expensive drug, out of the reach of many people around the world.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Which brings up another question...How much better are we at treating COVID now, as opposed to last March?

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                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    Which brings up another question...How much better are we at treating COVID now, as opposed to last March?

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                    @Jolly said in RCT of Vitamin D as Covid treatment:

                    Which brings up another question...How much better are we at treating COVID now, as opposed to last March?

                    Good point - and Bach commented that we're better at it.

                    The understanding that COVID-19 is, among other things, a vascular, not respiratory disease changed a lot (use of anticoagulants). Reducing the dependency on mechanical ventilation has helped as well - throwing out the old algorithms of who needs a ventilator and who doesn't. The other things that seem to be clear are the uses of steroids as anti-inflammatory and antibiotics to treat superinfection.

                    I'm not sure I understand the physiology of the benefits of zinc and vitamins, however.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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