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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on last edited by
    #3

    Is it self-driving?

    I was only joking

    George KG 1 Reply Last reply
    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      @George-K said in "Plaid":

      Acceleration 0-60 mph: 2 seconds (or less)

      Nice.

      George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #4

      @jon-nyc the Maclaren Senna with similar specs can go around the Laguna track in 1:27. The Tesla did it in 1:30 (before tweaking).

      The Maclaren is more than $1M.

      So, next time you ride horses, you gonna rent this?

      And if you do, are you going to wash it before you return it?

      You'll be able to rent lease it for $2K a month, by the way. If you order today, it's $1,000 (refundable) deposit with delivery late next year (LOL).

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        Is it self-driving?

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        George K
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        #5

        @Doctor-Phibes said in "Plaid":

        Is it self-driving?

        Yes, for another $8K.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • KlausK Offline
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          Klaus
          wrote on last edited by
          #6

          Range: 520 miles
          Top Speed: 200 mph

          At 200 mph, the range is presumably closer to 52 miles.

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          • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on last edited by
            #7

            Does anybody actually race these? Presumably there'd be a big problem with the batteries going flat. If they don't, I don't really see the point of them - they'd be kind of pretend race-cars.

            I was only joking

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            • KlausK Offline
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              Klaus
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              #8

              I think the whole idea of battery-driven super-fast cars is somewhat contradictory. If you want to have a reasonable range, you can only ever drive like in a 30hp Volkswagen Beetle from 1950.

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              • MikM Away
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                Mik
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                #9

                Why would you buid a street car that can go 200 MPH? I'm not quite sure why that is even legal in the US.

                But I sure would like to test one.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  Why would you buid a street car that can go 200 MPH? I'm not quite sure why that is even legal in the US.

                  But I sure would like to test one.

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
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                  #10

                  @Mik said in "Plaid":

                  Why would you buid a street car that can go 200 MPH? I'm not quite sure why that is even legal in the US.

                  But I sure would like to test one.

                  Top speed on my daughter-in-law's car, Bad Kitty, is supposedly somewhere around 200mph. The only place my son has truly been able to stretch it out is on the track and then he doesn't go past 165mph or so. I don't know if anywhere in the states you can legally do it on a highway...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                    #11

                    If you actually want to drive that fast on a track, you need to start taking some major precautions. Try Googling 'Nordschleife accidents' - it throws up some pretty great videos.

                    I'm sure it would be fun for a day, but the thought of spending that much money to sit in Boston traffic doesn't really appeal.

                    Link to video

                    FF to 8:00

                    I was only joking

                    George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      If you actually want to drive that fast on a track, you need to start taking some major precautions. Try Googling 'Nordschleife accidents' - it throws up some pretty great videos.

                      I'm sure it would be fun for a day, but the thought of spending that much money to sit in Boston traffic doesn't really appeal.

                      Link to video

                      FF to 8:00

                      George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      #12

                      @Doctor-Phibes I know nothing about racing cars, particularly your own on a track like the Ring. Looking at the video you posted, and some others, it seems like they all have one thing in common: tires that aren't sticky enough.

                      Educate me....

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                        #13

                        The tires are sticky enough until you go too fast round a corner 🙂

                        If you watch a Formula 1 race, they will typically go through 2-3 sets of tires in less than 2 hours, so they're designed to shed a lot of rubber in that time. A regular set of tires is designed to last a lot longer, so is a lot harder, and therefore provides a lot less grip. Race tires basically have to run very hot, so they're soft, and stick to the track like glue - they don't have tread unless they're designed to be used in the wet, so the contact patch (and hence the grip) is a lot bigger.

                        I was only joking

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          The tires are sticky enough until you go too fast round a corner 🙂

                          If you watch a Formula 1 race, they will typically go through 2-3 sets of tires in less than 2 hours, so they're designed to shed a lot of rubber in that time. A regular set of tires is designed to last a lot longer, so is a lot harder, and therefore provides a lot less grip. Race tires basically have to run very hot, so they're soft, and stick to the track like glue - they don't have tread unless they're designed to be used in the wet, so the contact patch (and hence the grip) is a lot bigger.

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                          George K
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                          @Doctor-Phibes I was aware of those things (no tread, the frequency of tyre tire swap out, etc). I guess my point is that the people who are trying to do crazy things on the Ring with inadequate equipment ... well, that should be predicted.

                          Another site shows them going in the rain. FFS.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • LarryL Offline
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                            Larry
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                            #15

                            Sticky tires... 200 mph... HAH!

                            I strap in, fire up the engine, check the climate control, and then run that thing up to 50 mph, set the cruise control, and then throw caution to the wind!!.......

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                            • George KG George K

                              @Doctor-Phibes I was aware of those things (no tread, the frequency of tyre tire swap out, etc). I guess my point is that the people who are trying to do crazy things on the Ring with inadequate equipment ... well, that should be predicted.

                              Another site shows them going in the rain. FFS.

                              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                              #16

                              @George-K said in "Plaid":

                              @Doctor-Phibes I was aware of those things (no tread, the frequency of tyre tire swap out, etc). I guess my point is that the people who are trying to do crazy things on the Ring with inadequate equipment ... well, that should be predicted.

                              Another site shows them going in the rain. FFS.

                              You can race in the rain, but not with slicks as they aqua-plane. The absolute best F1 races are in the rain. They used to run Formula 1 at the Ring - in 1968 Jackie Stewart won a race in the wet there by a margin of over 4 minutes - driving with a broken wrist.

                              Link to video

                              I was only joking

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                              • LarryL Larry

                                Sticky tires... 200 mph... HAH!

                                I strap in, fire up the engine, check the climate control, and then run that thing up to 50 mph, set the cruise control, and then throw caution to the wind!!.......

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #17

                                @Larry said in "Plaid":

                                Sticky tires... 200 mph... HAH!

                                I strap in, fire up the engine, check the climate control, and then run that thing up to 50 mph, set the cruise control, and then throw caution to the wind!!.......

                                Where beez de hos?

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                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @Doctor-Phibes I was aware of those things (no tread, the frequency of tyre tire swap out, etc). I guess my point is that the people who are trying to do crazy things on the Ring with inadequate equipment ... well, that should be predicted.

                                  Another site shows them going in the rain. FFS.

                                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #18

                                  @George-K said in "Plaid":

                                  @Doctor-Phibes I was aware of those things (no tread, the frequency of tyre tire swap out, etc). I guess my point is that the people who are trying to do crazy things on the Ring with inadequate equipment ... well, that should be predicted.

                                  Breaks and suspension are also a lot different on a race car. People stick a big engine in and old clunker to make it go faster, but forget that it needs other things too.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    @Larry said in "Plaid":

                                    Sticky tires... 200 mph... HAH!

                                    I strap in, fire up the engine, check the climate control, and then run that thing up to 50 mph, set the cruise control, and then throw caution to the wind!!.......

                                    Where beez de hos?

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                                    Larry
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                                    #19

                                    @Jolly said in "Plaid":

                                    @Larry said in "Plaid":

                                    Sticky tires... 200 mph... HAH!

                                    I strap in, fire up the engine, check the climate control, and then run that thing up to 50 mph, set the cruise control, and then throw caution to the wind!!.......

                                    Where beez de hos?

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