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Go piss up a rope...

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #1

    Actions have consequences...

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doj-rejects-nadler-request-for-testimony-from-senior-officials-after-barr-treatment

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • KincaidK Offline
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      Kincaid
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      By God I love Barr.

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      • KincaidK Kincaid

        By God I love Barr.

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        George K
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        @Kincaid said in Go piss up a rope...:

        By God I love Barr.

        alt text

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • KincaidK Offline
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          Kincaid
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          #4

          If I knew how to embed video I would post one of Kombucha girl.

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          • MikM Offline
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            #5

            Good for him.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • KincaidK Kincaid

              If I knew how to embed video I would post one of Kombucha girl.

              George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #6

              @Kincaid said in Go piss up a rope...:

              Kombucha girl.

              Her?

              alt text

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • KincaidK Offline
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                Kincaid
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                #7

                Yep!

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by George K
                  #8

                  The letter:

                  https://www.scribd.com/document/477019763/DOJ-Letter-to-Nadler#download&from_embed

                                                                            U.S. Department of Justice
                                                                            Office of Legislative Affairs
                  

                  Office of the Assistant Attorney General Washington, D.C. 20530

                  September 21, 2020
                  The Honorable Jerrold Nadler
                  Chairman
                  Committee on the Judiciary
                  U.S. House of Representatives
                  Washington, D.C. 20515

                  Dear Chairman Nadler:

                  I write in response to your August 28, 2020 letter to Assistant Attorney General Eric
                  Dreiband and your September 14, 2020 letters to Bureau of Prisons Director Michael Carvajal
                  and U.S. Marshals Service Director Donald Washington.1

                  Your letters request that Assistant Attorney General Dreiband testify at a hearing before
                  the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties on September 24
                  regarding “a broad range of topics regarding current policies and actions of the Civil Rights
                  Division.” You have also requested that Director Carvajal and Director Washington appear
                  before the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security for an oversight hearing
                  regarding the Bureau of Prisons and the U.S. Marshals Service on October 1, 2020.

                  The Department of Justice (Department) recognizes that the Committee has a legitimate
                  interest in oversight of the Department, including the matters identified in your letters. That is
                  why the Attorney General recently appeared in person to testify about these subjects and others
                  at the Committee’s oversight hearing on July 28, 2020. Prior to the Attorney General’s
                  testimony, the Committee advised that the Members would seek to ask him about the policies of
                  the Civil Rights Division with respect to police misconduct, the election, and voting rights. See,
                  e.g., Oversight of the Department of Justice: Political Interference and Threats to Prosecutorial
                  Independence, Hearing Before the H. Comm. on the Judiciary, 116th Cong. (June 24, 2020). In
                  addition, the Committee expressed interest in information related to the Bureau of Prisons and
                  Marshals Service, including the components’ response to the COVID-19 pandemic as well as
                  matters of civil unrest. See, e.g., Letter from Jerrold Nadler, Chairman, H. Comm. on the
                  Judiciary, and Rep. Karen Bass, to Michael Carvajal, Dir., U.S. Bureau of Prisons (June 11,
                  2020); Letter from Jerrold Nadler, Chairman, H. Comm. on the Judiciary, and Rep. Karen Bass,
                  to Donald Washington, Dir., U.S. Marshals Service (May 15, 2020). The Attorney General
                  therefore appeared prepared to discuss all of these subjects, and he in fact addressed some of
                  them when asked by the Members.

                  Unfortunately, when given the opportunity to obtain information from the head of the
                  Department of Justice about precisely these matters, many Committee Members chose instead to
                  use their allotted time to air grievances. Rather than attempt to obtain information from the
                  Department that would assist the Committee in recommending legislation to the House, many
                  Members of the majority devoted their time entirely towards scolding and insulting the Attorney
                  General. These Members refused to allow the Attorney General to respond to their accusations
                  or to answer questions asked for rhetorical effect. As the New York Times reported, “Democrat
                  after Democrat posed questions to Mr. Barr only to cut him off when he tried to reply,
                  substituting their own replies for his.” See Barr Testimony: Highlights of Combative Hearings
                  on Protests, Stone Case and More, N.Y. Times (July 28, 2020). In what can only be viewed as a
                  coordinated effort to muzzle the Attorney General, the Members repeatedly invoked the phrase,
                  “reclaiming my time,” which they employed more than 30 times when the Attorney General tried
                  to respond. All told, when the Attorney General tried to address the Committee’s questions, he
                  was interrupted and silenced in excess of 70 times. Some Members were quite candid that they
                  had no interest in actually hearing from the Attorney General. One Member interrupted him and
                  admitted, “Well I don’t want you to tell your story.” Oversight of the Department of Justice,
                  Hearing Before the H. Comm. on the Judiciary, 116th Cong. (July 28, 2020). Another advised,
                  “You will have a chance to comment after your testimony is done here today.” Id. Despite the
                  Attorney General appearing in person and taking questions from all Members who were present,
                  he was denied the most basic opportunities to respond.

                  As the Supreme Court recently reiterated, the purpose of a hearing by the House is to
                  obtain the information necessary to legislate “wisely and effectively,” and the questioning is
                  required to serve a legitimate legislative purpose. See Trump v. Mazars USA, LLP, 140 S. Ct.
                  2019 (2020). Yet the House’s so-called oversight “hearing” of the Attorney General did
                  preciously little to advance any legitimate interest since the Attorney General was repeatedly
                  denied the opportunity to provide information to the Committee. We very much regret that the
                  Committee did not elect to engage in a meaningful, good-faith effort to obtain information and
                  views from the Attorney General while he was present and prepared to testify. Having
                  squandered its opportunity to conduct a meaningful oversight hearing with the Attorney General,
                  it remains unclear how further public spectacles with other Department officials would now—a
                  mere 14 legislative days since the Attorney General’s hearing—advance the Committee’s
                  legitimate oversight efforts.

                  In short, the Attorney General recently appeared before the Committee and was available
                  to address the topics that are to be covered by the September 24 and October 1 hearings.
                  Although the Department is not in a position to provide witnesses for these hearings at this time,
                  should the Committee nonetheless continue to have particular interest in obtaining information
                  from the Department, and should the Committee commit to doing so in an appropriate and
                  productive manner, the Department would be happy to work with you regarding the scheduling
                  of additional oversight hearings in the future.

                  Please do not hesitate to contact this office if we may provide additional assistance
                  regarding this or any other matter.

                  Sincerely,

                  Stephen E. Boyd
                  Assistant Attorney General

                  cc: The Honorable Jim Jordan
                  Ranking Member

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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