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My college is robbing me.

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    George K
    wrote on 15 Sept 2020, 15:32 last edited by
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    Here's the bill to prove it.

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    UNC-Charlotte, like many colleges across the country, is charging me for products and services even though students like me won’t have access to them. Despite moving almost all classes online this fall in response to COVID-19, UNC-Charlotte elected to charge full-time in-person tuition and fees to all students. But, if I'm not on campus, why am I being charged for transportation services, food facility fees, tech fees, safety and security fees, and university fees meant to cover on-campus clubs and activities?

    Students will be paying $1,670 in fees this year, despite campus operating at limited capacity, and on a very shortened schedule. My bill this semester, like the bills of other full-time students who used to receive their instruction traditionally, features $1,097 in “university fees” alone, whereas distance education students who, like myself and most of my classmates, will access their classes 100 percent online and pay $0.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • G George K
      15 Sept 2020, 15:32

      Here's the bill to prove it.

      alt text

      UNC-Charlotte, like many colleges across the country, is charging me for products and services even though students like me won’t have access to them. Despite moving almost all classes online this fall in response to COVID-19, UNC-Charlotte elected to charge full-time in-person tuition and fees to all students. But, if I'm not on campus, why am I being charged for transportation services, food facility fees, tech fees, safety and security fees, and university fees meant to cover on-campus clubs and activities?

      Students will be paying $1,670 in fees this year, despite campus operating at limited capacity, and on a very shortened schedule. My bill this semester, like the bills of other full-time students who used to receive their instruction traditionally, features $1,097 in “university fees” alone, whereas distance education students who, like myself and most of my classmates, will access their classes 100 percent online and pay $0.

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      Copper
      wrote on 15 Sept 2020, 15:37 last edited by Copper
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      @George-K said in My college is robbing me.:

      Here's the bill to prove it.

      why am I being charged for transportation services, food facility fees, tech fees, safety and security fees, and university fees meant to cover on-campus clubs and activities?

      Because there's one born every minute.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 15 Sept 2020, 15:47 last edited by
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        If you could get accreditation, now is the time for major renovation in the process of college education.

        If you could get accreditation.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Horace
          wrote on 15 Sept 2020, 15:50 last edited by
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          The swamp might not like to give out those accreditations. Because the swamp cares deeply about quality of education, and will defend it unyieldingly.

          Education is extremely important.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 15 Sept 2020, 15:58 last edited by jon-nyc
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            It’s not so simple as accreditation. It’s general recognition of status.

            There’s a reason we look at Stanford, Berkeley, Cal Poly Palmona, and Bakersfield Community College quite differently, despite their all being accredited.

            It comes down to the velvet rope.

            We are primates after all.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • J jon-nyc
              15 Sept 2020, 15:58

              It’s not so simple as accreditation. It’s general recognition of status.

              There’s a reason we look at Stanford, Berkeley, Cal Poly Palmona, and Bakersfield Community College quite differently, despite their all being accredited.

              It comes down to the velvet rope.

              We are primates after all.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 15 Sept 2020, 16:28 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in My college is robbing me.:

              It’s not so simple as accreditation. It’s general recognition of status.

              There’s a reason we look at Stanford, Berkeley, Cal Poly Palmona, and Bakersfield Community College quite differently, despite their all being accredited.

              It comes down to the velvet rope.

              We are primates after all.

              Maybe for the elite class, but us working slobs generally don't give too much thought to whether you graduated from Hah-vahd, or some such. Snot tracks on the ceiling don't bale the hay.

              A degree from an accredited school is usually what is needed for entry into many jobs in the working world. For example, our local school board doesn't give a rip where you graduated from, but they do care if you have a degree and are accredited in the subject you wish to teach.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • J jon-nyc
                15 Sept 2020, 15:58

                It’s not so simple as accreditation. It’s general recognition of status.

                There’s a reason we look at Stanford, Berkeley, Cal Poly Palmona, and Bakersfield Community College quite differently, despite their all being accredited.

                It comes down to the velvet rope.

                We are primates after all.

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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on 15 Sept 2020, 16:55 last edited by Aqua Letifer
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                @jon-nyc said in My college is robbing me.:

                It’s not so simple as accreditation. It’s general recognition of status.
                There’s a reason we look at Stanford, Berkeley, Cal Poly Palmona, and Bakersfield Community College quite differently, despite their all being accredited.
                It comes down to the velvet rope.
                We are primates after all.

                Only for some jobs. Journalism, media, and tech don't work this way at all anymore. I know a videographer who makes an assload producing material for bike companies. He's also done TdF* and the Giro a few times. He has no degree, and neither do his assistants. That's the norm among his peers; no degree or an Associate's from a small liberal arts or community college are the norm. And in large parts of tech, previous projects trump degree almost every time.

                But sure, for other fields, pieces of paper do buy you clout.

                *That's a fun story when you consider the NBC monopoly.

                Please love yourself.

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 15 Sept 2020, 16:58 last edited by
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                  Is there recourse? Can these students take the school to court or refuse to pay for services not rendered?

                  The Brad

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                    Friday
                    wrote on 15 Sept 2020, 17:24 last edited by
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                    We got a refund from our daughter's school. These students should eventually get one too.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 15 Sept 2020, 17:38 last edited by
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                      I'm going to have to look at my daughter's bill since she is at UNCSA.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • M Mik
                        15 Sept 2020, 17:38

                        I'm going to have to look at my daughter's bill since she is at UNCSA.

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                        Copper
                        wrote on 15 Sept 2020, 18:09 last edited by
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                        @Mik said in My college is robbing me.:

                        I'm going to have to look at my daughter's bill since she is at UNCSA.

                        I'm a little surprised you would send your daughter to a CSA school.

                        Link to video

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 15 Sept 2020, 18:31 last edited by
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                          You shouldn't be. 😆

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 15 Sept 2020, 19:58 last edited by
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                            Mik loves his CSA veggies.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 15 Sept 2020, 20:58 last edited by
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                              Jon you are too sleep. Go to drunk.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • M Mik
                                15 Sept 2020, 20:58

                                Jon you are too sleep. Go to drunk.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 15 Sept 2020, 21:05 last edited by
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                                @Mik said in My college is robbing me.:

                                Jon you are too sleep. Go to drunk.

                                Starkle, starkle, little twink!
                                Who the hell you are, I think?
                                Tee martoonis make a guy
                                Fool so feelish, don't know why.

                                I'm not drunk as thinkle peep,
                                I'm just a little slort of sheep.
                                So, just one more to fill my cup,
                                I have all day Sober to Sunday up.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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