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'You're Not Allowed To Film'

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    https://reason.com/2020/09/04/youre-not-allowed-to-film-the-fight-for-control-over-who-reports-from-portland/

    "YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO FILM!" is a cry you hear incessantly at protests in Portland, Oregon, always shouted at close range to your face by after-dark demonstrators. You can assert that, yes, you can film; you can point out that they themselves are filming incessantly; you can push their hands away from covering your phone; you can have your phone record them stealing your phone—all of these things have happened to me—and none will have any impact on their contention that "YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO FILM" and its occasional variation, "PHOTOGRAPHY EQUALS DEATH!"

    I cannot say who came up with these anti-camera battle cries. But it's easy to understand why protesters use them: to shape the narrative the country sees about the protests. And that narrative, in my estimation after many weeks covering street clashes in a city where I lived for 15 years, is 90 percent bullshit.

    I wondered, the first time I attended the protests at the federal building back in July, who all these young people with PRESS emblazoned on their jackets or helmets were. I asked one such guy who he worked for.

    "Independent Press Corps," he told me. As it turned out, dozens of other young PRESS people happened to work for the same outfit, which I at first assumed was a fancy way of saying "I want to report stuff and stream it on my Instagram."

    This turned out to be naive. The IPC is an organized group in league with the activists, and it is usually their footage you see streamed online and recycled on the news: mostly innocent protestors being harassed and beaten by police.

    The police indeed have tear-gassed and beaten people; there has been brutality. It is equally true, but featured less prominently in the news coverage, that activists spend hours every night menacing and setting fires to police stations and other institutions: City Hall, Immigration and Customs Enforcement headquarters, and last week Mayor Ted Wheeler's apartment building (until he agreed to move out). With the PRESS crew recording part of the story and the "YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO FILM!" crew harassing other journalists, the result can be a misleading view of the protests. It's a revolution via the cellphone video they allow you to see.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Time for Barr to use RICO.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Time for Barr to use RICO.

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        George K
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        @Jolly said in 'You're Not Allowed To Film':

        Time for Barr to use RICO.

        I've been thinking about that. They seem quite well-organized, with the intent of crossing state lines to commit various crimes.

        I wonder how many CIs they have in these groups.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Barr said the other day, they have monitored several of the leaders flying from city to city. When you are organizing riots across state lines, I think you have become a Federal case, and subject to all Federal laws.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Reasonable expectation of privacy, bitches. They don't haz it.

            When are we going to bring in the National Guard?

            Please love yourself.

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Barr said the other day, they have monitored several of the leaders flying from city to city. When you are organizing riots across state lines, I think you have become a Federal case, and subject to all Federal laws.

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              @Jolly said in 'You're Not Allowed To Film':

              Barr said the other day, they have monitored several of the leaders flying from city to city. When you are organizing riots across state lines, I think you have become a Federal case, and subject to all Federal laws.

              👍

              Please love yourself.

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                Barr said the other day, they have monitored several of the leaders flying from city to city. When you are organizing riots across state lines, I think you have become a Federal case, and subject to all Federal laws.

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                @Jolly said in 'You're Not Allowed To Film':

                Barr said the other day, they have monitored several of the leaders flying from city to city. When you are organizing riots across state lines, I think you have become a Federal case, and subject to all Federal laws.

                https://nypost.com/2020/09/05/black-lives-matter-protesters-riot-in-manhattan-cause-100000-damage/

                Eight people were arrested Friday night when a group of 150 Black Lives Matter protesters smashed windows and graffitied the storefronts of Lower Manhattan chain stores and banks, police sources said.

                One of the arrested protesters was from Portland, Ore., and another was from Iowa, the sources said.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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