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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    Axtremus
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    #99

    Remember that video segment where Trump spoke at a naturalization swearing in ceremony in the White House?

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/30/chad-wolf-naturalization-republican-convention-405214

    "Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf said Sunday that he did not know a video in which he participated in a naturalization ceremony would be broadcast during the Republican National Convention."

    Do you believe him?

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    • AxtremusA Axtremus

      Remember that video segment where Trump spoke at a naturalization swearing in ceremony in the White House?

      https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/30/chad-wolf-naturalization-republican-convention-405214

      "Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf said Sunday that he did not know a video in which he participated in a naturalization ceremony would be broadcast during the Republican National Convention."

      Do you believe him?

      RainmanR Offline
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      Rainman
      wrote on last edited by
      #100

      @Axtremus said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

      Remember that video segment where Trump spoke at a naturalization swearing in ceremony in the White House?

      https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/30/chad-wolf-naturalization-republican-convention-405214

      "Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf said Sunday that he did not know a video in which he participated in a naturalization ceremony would be broadcast during the Republican National Convention."

      Do you believe him?

      Ax 'ol pal 'ol bud, my mind-reading isn't even in the same universe as yours.
      So, do I believe him?
      Am I suppose to? Or, not.
      See, it's so much easier to mindread, when you are feigning asking just a simple, innocent little question, don't you think, where you already know the answer?
      I tried. Can't do it. Just can't do it. I bow to your mastery. Your cognitive ability is like a pinball machine compared to mine.

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      • KlausK Klaus

        Those clips are embarrassing for Trump, but they are also embarrassing for the persons in the video. How somebody like Ted Cruz can support Trump with a straight face after what he said about him is beyond me.

        JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        #101

        @Klaus said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

        Those clips are embarrassing for Trump, but they are also embarrassing for the persons in the video. How somebody like Ted Cruz can support Trump with a straight face after what he said about him is beyond me.

        Naive critter, ain't you?😄

        It's politics, young man.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          @Axtremus said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2020/08/28/television-ratings-democratic-convention-edge-out-republican-convention/

          “Across their respective four nights of programming, the Democratic convention averaged more than 20 million total viewers per night in the 10 p.m. spotlight viewing hour, compared with 17.4 million total viewers for the GOP convention.“

          The TV viewership numbers are in. The Democratic National Convention has won the TV viewership comparison.

          That’s interesting. Winning side got more viewers in every election for the last quarter century.

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          Jolly
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          #102

          @jon-nyc said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

          @Axtremus said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2020/08/28/television-ratings-democratic-convention-edge-out-republican-convention/

          “Across their respective four nights of programming, the Democratic convention averaged more than 20 million total viewers per night in the 10 p.m. spotlight viewing hour, compared with 17.4 million total viewers for the GOP convention.“

          The TV viewership numbers are in. The Democratic National Convention has won the TV viewership comparison.

          That’s interesting. Winning side got more viewers in every election for the last quarter century.

          Yep, and Republicans had six times as many people streaming their convention than the Dems. If you count total eyeballs, the GOP had more people watching.

          Secondly, Biden got no bounce. Trump did. That's interesting...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Larry
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            #103

            Link to video

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @Klaus said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

              Those clips are embarrassing for Trump, but they are also embarrassing for the persons in the video. How somebody like Ted Cruz can support Trump with a straight face after what he said about him is beyond me.

              Naive critter, ain't you?😄

              It's politics, young man.

              taiwan_girlT Offline
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              taiwan_girl
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              #104

              @Jolly said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

              @Klaus said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

              Those clips are embarrassing for Trump, but they are also embarrassing for the persons in the video. How somebody like Ted Cruz can support Trump with a straight face after what he said about him is beyond me.

              Naive critter, ain't you?😄

              It's politics, young man.

              That frustrates me.

              Primary opponents (on both sides) talk bad about each other. But wait - ten days later, that same person is the greatest person EVER!!!!

              So, do we believe then before? Do we believe them now? Do we ever believe them???

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                @Jolly said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

                @Klaus said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

                Those clips are embarrassing for Trump, but they are also embarrassing for the persons in the video. How somebody like Ted Cruz can support Trump with a straight face after what he said about him is beyond me.

                Naive critter, ain't you?😄

                It's politics, young man.

                That frustrates me.

                Primary opponents (on both sides) talk bad about each other. But wait - ten days later, that same person is the greatest person EVER!!!!

                So, do we believe then before? Do we believe them now? Do we ever believe them???

                JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                #105

                @taiwan_girl said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

                @Jolly said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

                @Klaus said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

                Those clips are embarrassing for Trump, but they are also embarrassing for the persons in the video. How somebody like Ted Cruz can support Trump with a straight face after what he said about him is beyond me.

                Naive critter, ain't you?😄

                It's politics, young man.

                That frustrates me.

                Primary opponents (on both sides) talk bad about each other. But wait - ten days later, that same person is the greatest person EVER!!!!

                So, do we believe then before? Do we believe them now? Do we ever believe them???

                You don't believe them. Ever.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  @Jolly said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

                  @Klaus said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

                  Those clips are embarrassing for Trump, but they are also embarrassing for the persons in the video. How somebody like Ted Cruz can support Trump with a straight face after what he said about him is beyond me.

                  Naive critter, ain't you?😄

                  It's politics, young man.

                  That frustrates me.

                  Primary opponents (on both sides) talk bad about each other. But wait - ten days later, that same person is the greatest person EVER!!!!

                  So, do we believe then before? Do we believe them now? Do we ever believe them???

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #106

                  @taiwan_girl said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

                  Primary opponents (on both sides) talk bad about each other. But wait - ten days later, that same person is the greatest person EVER!!!!

                  So, do we believe then before? Do we believe them now? Do we ever believe them???

                  Good comments, as usual, TG.

                  Kamala Harris who polled at 3% during her brief run for the presidency, In fact, she dropped out before the first primary was held, and now, all of a sudden, she's the greatest thing since indoor plumbing?

                  Color me skeptical, but she was chosen only on the basis of her gender and race.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • AxtremusA Offline
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                    Axtremus
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                    #107

                    More RNC bait-and-switch shenanigans:

                    "Three NYC public housing tenants said they were tricked into appearing in a Republican National Convention video. Lynne Patton, a HUD official, interviewed them for the video, which they thought would be used to highlight issues in public housing."

                    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/28/nyregion/nyc-tenants-rnc-video-trump.html

                    “I am not a Trump supporter,” one of the tenants said, adding that she was furious that her interview with a government official was used for the convention.

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      More RNC bait-and-switch shenanigans:

                      "Three NYC public housing tenants said they were tricked into appearing in a Republican National Convention video. Lynne Patton, a HUD official, interviewed them for the video, which they thought would be used to highlight issues in public housing."

                      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/28/nyregion/nyc-tenants-rnc-video-trump.html

                      “I am not a Trump supporter,” one of the tenants said, adding that she was furious that her interview with a government official was used for the convention.

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                      Loki
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #108

                      Will be interesting to see the whole story come out. These days it pays to wait a little bit.

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                      • RainmanR Offline
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                        Rainman
                        wrote on last edited by Rainman
                        #109

                        ATTA BOY, AX!!!!
                        Man, you're changing the forum, country and world like a Superman!
                        Everything you copy/paste turns into like, a combination of Aristotle and Shakespeare. It's so like, deep-like and ULTRA convincing. And you do all that without even having to think. Amazing!

                        Good job, as always. I'm definitely voting for Biden. All because of you, bud.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #110

                          Or maybe....The women caught so much hell from their neighbors - not that TDS folks would do that - they decided to tell a little lie for their own safety...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            Or maybe....The women caught so much hell from their neighbors - not that TDS folks would do that - they decided to tell a little lie for their own safety...

                            AxtremusA Offline
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                            Axtremus
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #111

                            @Jolly said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

                            Or maybe....The women caught so much hell from their neighbors - not that TDS folks would do that - they decided to tell a little lie for their own safety...

                            There you go again trusting politicians more than you trust regular people.

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                            • AxtremusA Axtremus

                              @Jolly said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

                              Or maybe....The women caught so much hell from their neighbors - not that TDS folks would do that - they decided to tell a little lie for their own safety...

                              There you go again trusting politicians more than you trust regular people.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by Jolly
                              #112

                              @Axtremus said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

                              @Jolly said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

                              Or maybe....The women caught so much hell from their neighbors - not that TDS folks would do that - they decided to tell a little lie for their own safety...

                              There you go again trusting politicians more than you trust regular people.

                              Trust, but verify.

                              A politician once said that. A wiser one than most.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • L Loki

                                Will be interesting to see the whole story come out. These days it pays to wait a little bit.

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                                Loki
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                                #113

                                @Loki said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

                                Will be interesting to see the whole story come out. These days it pays to wait a little bit.

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                                • HoraceH Online
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                                  Horace
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                                  #114

                                  Omg Ax is going to be so embarrassed.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    Omg Ax is going to be so embarrassed.

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                                    George K
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                                    #115

                                    @Horace said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

                                    Omg Ax is going to be so embarrassed.

                                    I'm going to wait for the New York Times' retraction.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Axtremus
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                                      #116

                                      Post convention polls:

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                                      Source: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/national/ as downloaded on 2020-09-02 around noon Eastern Time.

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                                        @Horace said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

                                        Omg Ax is going to be so embarrassed.

                                        I'm going to wait for the New York Times' retraction.

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                                        Loki
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                                        #117

                                        @George-K said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

                                        @Horace said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

                                        Omg Ax is going to be so embarrassed.

                                        I'm going to wait for the New York Times' retraction.

                                        I guess Ax has moved on just like the NYT. He has offered no retort and no capitulation.

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                                          @George-K said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

                                          @Horace said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

                                          Omg Ax is going to be so embarrassed.

                                          I'm going to wait for the New York Times' retraction.

                                          I guess Ax has moved on just like the NYT. He has offered no retort and no capitulation.

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                                          Axtremus
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                                          @Loki said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

                                          @George-K said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

                                          @Horace said in Republican National Convention (RNC) - 2020:

                                          Omg Ax is going to be so embarrassed.

                                          I'm going to wait for the New York Times' retraction.

                                          I guess Ax has moved on just like the NYT. He has offered no retort and no capitulation.

                                          The retort is as follow:

                                          • Suppose you go by the Lynn Patton tweet you linked to, it shows a CNN person's email saying three named people "knew the video was going to be used for the RNC." When did they know? Did they know before they were recorded or after? If they know only after they were recorded, then there is no inconsistency with the NYTimes report. Furthermore, the CNN person's email also says the three named people asked the video to be cut -- it is not literally clear what "cut" might mean in this email, but it would be reasonable to guess that by "cut" they mean they do not want the video shown, which again would be consistent with NYTimes quoting one of the recorded tenant as unsupportive of Trump and furious about not wanting the video to be shown in the RNC.
                                          • Look also at Lynn Patton's question: "Do you honestly think @WeRJamestown would film 4 civilians WITHOUT also telling them it’s for the #RNC & getting waivers from each resident" (note that so far there is no evidence provided to show what the waivers say or that the waivers even exist), ask yourself this: Do you honestly believe Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf's claim that he did not know a video in which he participated in a naturalization ceremony would be broadcast during the Republican National Convention?
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