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A Few Questions For My Liberal Friends…

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    So… now that we are barely over 25% of the way through Donald J Trump’s 2nd term in office, are you willing to concede that the federal government has way too much influence and power on the daily lives of Americans? Do you wish that DJT and his Congressional Cronies had less reach into your lives? Are you ready to restrain the powers of Executive and Legislative branches and put more power and responsibility to individuals instead of vast bureaucracies?

    Or have you not learned the lesson of the DJT presidency and plan on doubling down?

    The Brad

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    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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      I don't want the government controlling cool stuff that I want to do. I'm happy if they stop you from doing crazy shit.

      I was only joking

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      • AxtremusA Away
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        Yeah, the government really shouldn't ban transgender treatments -- that's clearly an issue of individual liberty; whether one chooses to transition to woman or man has no bearing on how others live their lives.

        But mandating vaccinations is clearly a matter of public health and public good. Those who refuse to vaccinate can clearly compromise the health and safety of fellow citizens who cannot be vaccinated due to other health issues. Ditto environmental regulations for clean air and clean water.

        It's not a matter of the government having too much or too little power, but whether it has the right amount of power to control the right set of things. Of course, nobody knows better than I what is the right amount of power and what are the right set of things.

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          Yeah, the government really shouldn't ban transgender treatments -- that's clearly an issue of individual liberty; whether one chooses to transition to woman or man has no bearing on how others live their lives.

          But mandating vaccinations is clearly a matter of public health and public good. Those who refuse to vaccinate can clearly compromise the health and safety of fellow citizens who cannot be vaccinated due to other health issues. Ditto environmental regulations for clean air and clean water.

          It's not a matter of the government having too much or too little power, but whether it has the right amount of power to control the right set of things. Of course, nobody knows better than I what is the right amount of power and what are the right set of things.

          LuFins DadL Offline
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          #4

          @Axtremus said:

          Yeah, the government really shouldn't ban transgender treatments -- that's clearly an issue of individual liberty; whether one chooses to transition to woman or man has no bearing on how others live their lives.

          But mandating vaccinations is clearly a matter of public health and public good. Those who refuse to vaccinate can clearly compromise the health and safety of fellow citizens who cannot be vaccinated due to other health issues. Ditto environmental regulations for clean air and clean water.

          It's not a matter of the government having too much or too little power, but whether it has the right amount of power to control the right set of things. Of course, nobody knows better than I what is the right amount of power and what are the right set of things.

          So in other words… No. You haven’t learned a thing and will double down on making the same mistakes.

          Good to know.

          The Brad

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          • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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            #5

            Serious answer: I'd much prefer devolving power away from the Federal government and an increase in individual liberty. I've always felt this way, at least in living memory.

            I was only joking

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              Yeah, the government really shouldn't ban transgender treatments -- that's clearly an issue of individual liberty; whether one chooses to transition to woman or man has no bearing on how others live their lives.

              But mandating vaccinations is clearly a matter of public health and public good. Those who refuse to vaccinate can clearly compromise the health and safety of fellow citizens who cannot be vaccinated due to other health issues. Ditto environmental regulations for clean air and clean water.

              It's not a matter of the government having too much or too little power, but whether it has the right amount of power to control the right set of things. Of course, nobody knows better than I what is the right amount of power and what are the right set of things.

              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              @Axtremus said:

              It's not a matter of the government having too much or too little power, but whether it has the right amount of power to control the right set of things. Of course, nobody knows better than I what is the right amount of power and what are the right set of things.

              That's basically what I said except I was being facetious. Nobody can tell whether you're joking or not.

              I was only joking

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