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The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread

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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
    wrote last edited by
    #849

    He does fuck himself rather regularly.

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
      wrote last edited by
      #850

      Everyday and at least twice on Sundays.

      Elbows up!

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      • RenaudaR Offline
        RenaudaR Offline
        Renauda
        wrote last edited by
        #851

        And this:

        Elbows up!

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        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote last edited by
          #852

          Shameful.

          I was only joking

          Andrea BA 1 Reply Last reply
          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            Shameful.

            Andrea BA Offline
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            Andrea B
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            #853

            @Doctor-Phibes said:

            Shameful.

            Yes.

            I wonder if there's something else going on?

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            • bachophileB Online
              bachophileB Online
              bachophile
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              From @shanaka86 on X
              Long but interesting

              BREAKING: President Trump just released the footage. The most secretive bomber in the American arsenal hitting the most valuable military real estate in Iran. And he wants the world to watch.

              The video published on Truth Social shows B-2 Spirit stealth bombers conducting precision strikes on Kharg Island’s military infrastructure. Runway cratering charges tear the airbase apart in sequential detonations. Multiple explosions bloom across IRGC missile launch sites, coastal defence batteries, radar installations, and garrison facilities. The footage is steady, clinical, and unmistakable. The bombs are 2,000-pound JDAMs, GPS-guided GBU-31 and GBU-32 variants, the same munitions that cratered Iraqi airfields in 2003 and Afghan command centres for two decades. They are dropped by an aircraft that Iran’s air defence network cannot detect, track, or engage.

              The oil terminals are visible in every frame. They are untouched.

              That is the message. Not the destruction. The restraint. Ninety percent of Iran’s crude exports flow through those terminals. The loading jetties stand. The storage tanks are full. The infrastructure that funds the IRGC, that pays for the Shaheds, that finances the Mosaic Doctrine’s 31 autonomous commands, that underwrites every mine on the seabed of Hormuz, is intact and one presidential decision from joining the rubble surrounding it.

              The B-2 Spirit was designed to penetrate Soviet air defence networks during nuclear war. It carries 40,000 pounds of ordnance inside a flying wing with a radar cross-section smaller than a bird. Twenty aircraft exist. Each costs $2.1 billion. The United States sent its most expensive, most classified, most capable strategic asset to crater a runway on a 20-square-kilometre island in the Persian Gulf because the message required the messenger. A B-52 could have dropped the same JDAMs. An F-15E could have cratered the same runway. The B-2 was chosen because its presence means Iran had no warning, no interception opportunity, and no defence. The bombs arrived before the sound.

              The runway cratering is tactically decisive. A cratered runway cannot launch aircraft, receive resupply, or evacuate personnel. The IRGC garrison of 250 to 500 personnel is now isolated on an island whose military defences have been destroyed, whose airstrip is inoperable, and whose only remaining value is the oil infrastructure the United States deliberately chose not to destroy. The garrison cannot be reinforced by air. It cannot project force by sea because the IRGC Navy is at the bottom of the Gulf. It exists on an island that America controls from the sky while Iran controls from the ground, and the ground shrinks every hour the runway stays cratered.

              The footage itself is a weapon. Trump did not release it for documentation. He released it for deterrence. Every IRGC commander watching the video sees an aircraft they cannot detect delivering ordnance they cannot stop onto an island they cannot defend. Every Iranian decision-maker watching the terminals standing untouched beside the rubble understands the conditional: the restraint is voluntary. The next strike does not need to be restrained.

              The strategy emerging from the strike, the Marines deployment, and the Kharg footage is sequential strangulation. Destroy the military capacity to defend the island. Crater the runway to isolate the garrison. Deploy the Tripoli ARG with 2,500 Marines and F-35Bs for air superiority and potential amphibious seizure. Hold the oil terminals as leverage for a war-ending negotiation in which Iran’s 90% export revenue becomes the ransom for every American objective: open the Strait, surrender the uranium, dismantle the enrichment programme.

              Iran’s crown jewel is no longer Iran’s. It is a hostage sitting on a cratered runway surrounded by rubble, guarded by a garrison that cannot be reinforced, watched by an aircraft it cannot see, and one decision away from ceasing to exist.

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              • MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
                wrote last edited by
                #855

                This critique I agree with. the language used to describe this "excursion" is abysmal.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-talks-hitting-iran-for-fun-as-admin-criticized-over-tone/ar-AA1YE4Cl

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  #856

                  I am not sure why I still shake my head at some of these things.

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                  • bachophileB Online
                    bachophileB Online
                    bachophile
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                    This guy keeps churning stuff out. I don’t know if he is reliable but the read is very compelling. This one about Tucker.

                    @shanaka86

                    Iran watched Tucker Carlson argue against the war in the Oval Office three times. Then it watched the war arrive anyway.

                    ABC News & Reuters confirm Carlson met with Trump approximately 3 times in Feb 2026, sessions lasting roughly 90 minutes each, the last around 23 Feb, five days before the strikes. His message was consistent: do not attack Iran. After 28 Feb, he called the operation “disgusting and evil.” Trump responded publicly: “Tucker has lost his way. He’s not MAGA.”

                    Iranian state TV did not treat Carlson as a dissident. It treated him as evidence. His 2025 interview with President Pezeshkian was broadcast repeatedly on IRIB. His anti-war advocacy was amplified across Iranian state media as proof that America was divided, that the political will for a strike did not exist, and that the domestic opposition Trump faced made military action against Iran unlikely. The IRGC’s info apparatus did not merely observe American debate. It consumed it, rebroadcast it, and built its threat assessment on it.

                    This is the information warfare misjudgment that may have enabled the decapitation.

                    Authoritarian regimes make a specific analytical error when reading open democracies: they interpret domestic dissent as strategic hesitation. In closed systems, public opposition to a policy signals weakness at the top. In open systems, public opposition is the noise floor of governance. Tucker Carlson sitting in the Oval Office arguing against war does not mean war will not happen. It means democracy is functioning. The IRGC watched the noise and mistook it for the signal.

                    Khamenei was at a known location on 28 Feb. 7 top security officials were with him. Twelve family members were present. The strike took 60 seconds. The coordination required months of intelligence preparation that occurred while Tucker was in the Oval Office arguing it should not happen and Iranian state television was broadcasting his arguments as evidence it would not. The regime that amplified the voice of American dissent to reassure itself was destroyed by an operation planned in parallel with the dissent it was amplifying.

                    On 14 March, Carlson posted a video claiming the CIA accessed his pre-war text messages with Iranian contacts and was preparing a FARA criminal referral. No CIA or DOJ confirmation exists. No referral has been filed. Carlson denies payment or direction from Iranian entities. But the timing has produced a theory, circulating on X, that his documented contacts were monitored and his advocacy inadvertently reinforced the false signal that enabled the decapitation by convincing Tehran that American resolve was weaker than it was.

                    The theory is unverified. The mechanism it describes is real.

                    Intelligence services in every major conflict have exploited the gap between what an adversary’s media says and what its military plans. The IRGC consumed open-source American debate, weighted it as strategic intelligence, and reached a threat assessment that was fatally wrong. Carlson did not cause the miscalculation. He is not an agent. He is a journalist who argued his position in the most powerful office on Earth and had it rebroadcast by the state media of a country six days from annihilation. The IRGC chose to believe him. That choice is the misjudgment.

                    The post-strike IRGC, now a Habib Ring junta operating behind a wounded figurehead whose father considered him unfit, has compensated for the intelligence failure with the only doctrine it has left: $20,000 Shaheds aimed at the data centres that processed the targeting intelligence the misjudgment failed to prevent. The regime that misread American dissent as weakness is now striking the AI infrastructure that turned American intelligence into 1,000 targets in 24 hrs. The information warfare failed. The compute warfare is the fallback. And the $35,000 drone aimed at a Gulf server farm is the final expression of a regime that mistook Tucker Carlson for American foreign policy.

                    open.substack.com/pub/shanakaans…

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      I am not sure why I still shake my head at some of these things.

                      RenaudaR Offline
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                      Renauda
                      wrote last edited by Renauda
                      #858

                      @taiwan_girl said:

                      I am not sure why I still shake my head at some of these things.

                      Because you have principles.

                      Elbows up!

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