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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
    wrote last edited by
    #594

    God I hope not. This is a job for the Iranians. However we can help them without direct military intervention, great. But let's not forget the genesis of 1979.

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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    • MikM Mik

      Saw this on FB. Not sure who Chuck Shifflet is, so take with a big grain of salt. I'm not convinced that taking the mullahs out will prompt the people to rise up. It may just piss them off.

      Go Time??? There is a lot of breaking news concerning a possible attack on Iran... and due to the fluidity of the situation, instead of doing a deep dive I’ll just highlight the key points here. Last week, I did a deep dive and leaned toward the US strike beginning sometime after the State of the Union speech with Feb 28th probably being the latest date. I feel strongly it will happen this week. Here’s why and be sure to read to the end...

      • The US typically will not move the F22 stealth fighter into theater until just before hostilities are expected. The US recently moved one squadron to England, but hours ago, 11 of those 12 planes landed at Ovda Air Base in southern Israel. One plane experienced technical issues in route and returned to England. Never before has the US deployed F22s in Israel.

      • A second squadron of twelve F22s plus refueling tankers is now in route and expected to land in England soon and then continue on to the Middle East.
      • Today, the “Gang of Eight” was summoned to the White House for an urgent meeting with Sec. of State Rubio and other key administration leaders concerning possible military action against Iran. This typically occurs just prior to major military operations beginning. The “Gang” consists of two Republicans and two Democrats from the Senate and the same from the House. The Democrats leaving the meeting appeared shaken.

      • Two Iranian nuclear scientists died in a mysterious car crash today. We’ve seen these same actions previously many times from the Israeli Mossad agents operating in Iran. The US is heavily dependent on Israel for on-the-ground intel and espionage there as we have very limited capabilities in Iran proper. This action is to sew fear among Iranian leadership that we know where they are and can take them out. I think the US would prefer the Iranian people take out the actual Mullahs, but if that fails... we could.

      • There has been a lot of action over the past few days in Iran preparing the ground for an anti-regime revolution with hundreds of protests and small attacks on regime compounds, assets, and even on minor regime members and their families. Some IRGC members are reported to have defected to the anti-regime side as they see the writing on the wall.

      • Israel is rapidly setting up mobile bomb shelters across the northern part of the country in anticipation of a response from the Lebanon based Hezbollah terrorist group. IRGC commanders recently came in from Iran to take over Hezbollah operations because they feel Hezbollah did not adequately unload on Israel during the last dust up between Israel and Iran last year.

      • SEAD configured Wild Weasel F16s have just been moved from a US base in Japan to Diego Garcia within strike range of Iran. These are typically used to target air defenses and would be among the first wave of aircraft to launch.

      • Do not be surprised if Trump drops a major revelation about something involving Iran that adds justification to us striking them. I have been told in general what the issue is, but the decision to disclose it has not been made yet. If made public, it would be huuuge.
      • I could go and on detailing movement of aircraft and weapons systems, but this is the final piece that tells me everything is a go for this week... it’s all of the chatter from within the IDF, Israeli intel community, and Israeli leaders pointing to action being imminent. Watch what is happening on the ground in Israel involving their military and civilian emergency responders. The underground hospitals have been activated and patients are being transferred in.
      Tonight, say a prayer for the President, his cabinet, our military leadership and war planners... and most importantly for our frontline military personnel... especially our pilots.

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      @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

      The US is heavily dependent on Israel for on-the-ground intel and espionage there as we have very limited capabilities in Iran proper.

      I wonder why this is? I would think that the US would be able to develop assets just like Isreal.

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        jon-nyc
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        #596

        Iranian Jews. There is such thing as Iranian-Americans but they all live in Los Angeles.

        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            I think the people would be happy if we took the mullahs out. The problem is the IRG would still run the place. I don't know what it would take to get rid of them, and whether/how it could be done without a full-on Iraqi-style occupation which I doubt there's much stomach for in the Whitehouse or the country as a whole.

            AxtremusA Away
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            Axtremus
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            @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

            I think the people would be happy if we took the mullahs out. The problem is the IRG would still run the place. I don't know what it would take to get rid of them, and whether/how it could be done without a full-on Iraqi-style occupation which I doubt there's much stomach for in the Whitehouse or the country as a whole.

            Maybe pull another Maduro-napping act. Just change the head of state but the mullahs and the IRG will still run the place. Is there a puppet standing by ready to assume the position and let us put our imperial hand up its ass?

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              jon-nyc
              wrote last edited by
              #599

              When I said ‘the people’ I was referring to the Iranian people. I think they want the regime gone.

              The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                I think the people would be happy if we took the mullahs out. The problem is the IRG would still run the place. I don't know what it would take to get rid of them, and whether/how it could be done without a full-on Iraqi-style occupation which I doubt there's much stomach for in the Whitehouse or the country as a whole.

                Maybe pull another Maduro-napping act. Just change the head of state but the mullahs and the IRG will still run the place. Is there a puppet standing by ready to assume the position and let us put our imperial hand up its ass?

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                Renauda
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                @Axtremus

                Maybe pull another Maduro-napping act. Just change the head of state but the mullahs and the IRG will still run the place.

                And replace one geriatric fanatic with committee of younger fanatics? No.

                Is there a puppet standing by ready to assume the position and let us put our imperial hand up its ass?

                The exiled crown prince.

                Options are very limited

                Elbows up!

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                  jon-nyc
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                  #601

                  The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                  • bachophileB Online
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                    bachophile
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                    #602

                    IMG_1979.jpeg

                    Pic taken today at Ben gurion airport. Line of tankers on the tarmac. I’ve never seen anything like this.

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                      #603

                      Can we infer from this that Qatar isn’t going to let us attack from the base on their territory?

                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                      • bachophileB Online
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                        bachophile
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                        #604

                        Ok. Here we again. New thread or leave it here?

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                        • AxtremusA Away
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                          Axtremus
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                          #605

                          Leave it here.

                          Another regime change excursion, here we go.

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                          • bachophileB Online
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                            bachophile
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                            #606

                            So the ultimate goal is regime change. (Last 2 minutes)

                            One thing I noticed. He never went off script or ad lib. All right off the teleprompter. So every word was crafted.

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                              AndyD
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                              #607

                              It was pre recorded,no?

                              Good luck with Epic Fury. I'm sure the UK will be backing this if not actively helping and taking part. Guessing the two US battle fleets may be mostly self sufficient.

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                                bachophile
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                                  AndyD
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                                  Stay safe bachophile, missiles incoming!

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                                  • bachophileB Online
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                                    bachophile
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                                    Sad to say we are used to this. As odd as it sounds, we don’t feel in mortal danger. Just a heightened sense of awareness.

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                                    • bachophileB bachophile

                                      IMG_1979.jpeg

                                      Pic taken today at Ben gurion airport. Line of tankers on the tarmac. I’ve never seen anything like this.

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                                      bachophile
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #611

                                      said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                      IMG_1979.jpeg

                                      Pic taken today at Ben gurion airport. Line of tankers on the tarmac. I’ve never seen anything like this.

                                      IMG_1983.jpeg

                                      One of them up in the air right now

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                                        AndyD
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                                        US troops in Bahrain also under attack. The Iranian fanatics will hit back, they have nothing to lose.

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                                        • bachophileB bachophile

                                          So the ultimate goal is regime change. (Last 2 minutes)

                                          One thing I noticed. He never went off script or ad lib. All right off the teleprompter. So every word was crafted.

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                                          #613

                                          @bachophile said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                          So the ultimate goal is regime change. (Last 2 minutes)

                                          One thing I noticed. He never went off script or ad lib. All right off the teleprompter. So every word was crafted.

                                          Good speech.

                                          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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