ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis
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Interesting.
I guess that President Trump does not have the President Truman "buck stops here" sign on his desk.
(But, in President Trumps defense, it is a rare politician who take responsibility when something goes wrong. Even if they gave the "order", some staff member is the one caught.)
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Good breakdown here.
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@kluurs said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:
Not everyone is excited with the choice
Word is Homan was part of the contingent that wanted to focus on criminals while Noem and Miller wanted the spectacle. That’s why people viewed this as a climb down.
The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.
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@jon-nyc said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:
They're going to take her out back only for her to see a dog holding a shotgun.
Y'know, I'm not even sure it's really her fault. On paper she's exactly what Trump courts - good looking, aggressive, unshakably loyal women. But her personality and appearance when she speaks just lacks gravitas or credibility. She just doesn't look real.
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@kluurs said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:
Not everyone is excited with the choice
Word is Homan was part of the contingent that wanted to focus on criminals while Noem and Miller wanted the spectacle. That’s why people viewed this as a climb down.
@jon-nyc said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:
@kluurs said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:
Not everyone is excited with the choice
Word is Homan was part of the contingent that wanted to focus on criminals while Noem and Miller wanted the spectacle. That’s why people viewed this as a climb down.
That is definitely where they should be focusing. What is not easy to determine is how many illegals left due to the shock and awe approach. Whatever that number is, I'd suggest it's not worth the divisiveness - and deaths - it generated.
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Posted somewhere on the internet....
"We still have 1st and 2nd amendment rights - just don't try and use them both at the same time"
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Good take here. One of the takeaways, you have a right to carry a gun, but you don't have a right that the mere presence of your gun won't escalate situations.
Link to videoSo many in the trump hate tribe are weeping over this guy like he was an innocent bystander who was summarily executed. That's an absolute joke of a take. He was there to agitate, and he aggressively inserted himself into the middle of an already violent law enforcement encounter. 99 times out of 100 he doesn't end up dead even being that fucking stupid, and I'm sure he wasn't planning to. But shit happened.
Here's a representative example of the joke take. This guy's a popular lawyer youtuber who mostly does non-political stuff, but when he does political stuff, it's clear what tribe he belongs to.
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Education is extremely important.
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Good take here. One of the takeaways, you have a right to carry a gun, but you don't have a right that the mere presence of your gun won't escalate situations.
Link to videoSo many in the trump hate tribe are weeping over this guy like he was an innocent bystander who was summarily executed. That's an absolute joke of a take. He was there to agitate, and he aggressively inserted himself into the middle of an already violent law enforcement encounter. 99 times out of 100 he doesn't end up dead even being that fucking stupid, and I'm sure he wasn't planning to. But shit happened.
Here's a representative example of the joke take. This guy's a popular lawyer youtuber who mostly does non-political stuff, but when he does political stuff, it's clear what tribe he belongs to.
Link to video
I admire you for sticking to your guns on this issue. I had to do the very same here back in February 2022 when the rabble occupied downtown Ottawa and the Federal G’ovt invoked the Emergency Measures Act (wrongfully as the courts have since determined) to disperse the mob. I was told that I lived not only in a fascist state but one led by Fidel Castro’s bastard child. The real outrage occurred however, when a protester having entered a restricted area, had her newly purchased Grande Starbuck’s coffee confiscated and poured out in front of her. The TNCR’s resident coffee and donut shop gossip and unabashed Trump apologist from Louisiana was apoplectic that the Ottawa police could do such an egregious and unconstitutional action against a law abiding protester. Clearly he was on the side of the rabble in their defiance of law enforcement. Rampant fascism! That Fucker Carlson and, I think Tulsi Gabbard, were calling for regime change at the outrage.
In the end however the mob was forcefully dispersed after nearly three weeks of occupation that included acts of, distrurbing the peace at all hours, public mischief, property damage and a total disruption and disregard for the citizens of Ottawa’s daily lives and their business activities.
But you know what, other than a few pepper sprayed faces, bruised ribs from baton wielding riot police along with the poured out Starbuck’s coffee, no one was executed by the well armed law enforcement forces who brought an end to the occupation. My guess is that the cops were well trained and disciplined and knew exactly what to do and how to react in the situation.
Concurrent to the Ottawa occupation there was an occupation and blockade at one of the Canada US border crossings led by a similar group of yobs from southern Alberta. Some of those however brought a cache of firearms (legal and illegal) and apparently some homemade explosive devices. They had plans it seems beyond a peaceful demonstration. Cops found out and did an early morning total surprise raid on their trailers. Funny thing, no one got shot and killed in the roundup, in fact I don’t believe any shots were fired. It was silent and swift. Well trained and disciplined law enforcement I guess works to everyone’s benefit.
But please continue to keep up the good fight but just don’t expect me to listen with much of any sympathy for the executors or their political masters.
Elbows up!
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I admire you for sticking to your guns on this issue. I had to do the very same here back in February 2022 when the rabble occupied downtown Ottawa and the Federal G’ovt invoked the Emergency Measures Act (wrongfully as the courts have since determined) to disperse the mob. I was told that I lived not only in a fascist state but one led by Fidel Castro’s bastard child. The real outrage occurred however, when a protester having entered a restricted area, had her newly purchased Grande Starbuck’s coffee confiscated and poured out in front of her. The TNCR’s resident coffee and donut shop gossip and unabashed Trump apologist from Louisiana was apoplectic that the Ottawa police could do such an egregious and unconstitutional action against a law abiding protester. Clearly he was on the side of the rabble in their defiance of law enforcement. Rampant fascism! That Fucker Carlson and, I think Tulsi Gabbard, were calling for regime change at the outrage.
In the end however the mob was forcefully dispersed after nearly three weeks of occupation that included acts of, distrurbing the peace at all hours, public mischief, property damage and a total disruption and disregard for the citizens of Ottawa’s daily lives and their business activities.
But you know what, other than a few pepper sprayed faces, bruised ribs from baton wielding riot police along with the poured out Starbuck’s coffee, no one was executed by the well armed law enforcement forces who brought an end to the occupation. My guess is that the cops were well trained and disciplined and knew exactly what to do and how to react in the situation.
Concurrent to the Ottawa occupation there was an occupation and blockade at one of the Canada US border crossings led by a similar group of yobs from southern Alberta. Some of those however brought a cache of firearms (legal and illegal) and apparently some homemade explosive devices. They had plans it seems beyond a peaceful demonstration. Cops found out and did an early morning total surprise raid on their trailers. Funny thing, no one got shot and killed in the roundup, in fact I don’t believe any shots were fired. It was silent and swift. Well trained and disciplined law enforcement I guess works to everyone’s benefit.
But please continue to keep up the good fight but just don’t expect me to listen with much of any sympathy for the executors or their political masters.
@Renauda I don't know how to calibrate the chaos of the situations, between your examples and Minneapolis. But these are not large protests in Minneapolis. These are organized, targeted disruptions of active law enforcement activities, and the disrupters feel pretty good about being pretty aggressive. Walking right up to the line of legality, and sometimes crossing it. (As both the dead people in MN did.)
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It's nice to see some "conservatives" finally acknowledge that people wandering around carrying loaded handguns in broad daylight maybe aren't the brightest bulbs in the sock drawer.
I was only joking
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No need to calibrate anything. As I wrote on Saturday when this latest deadly force incident occurred, the protestor faced off with what he had thought were the Keystone Cops when in reality he confronted the Earps. (https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/355775)
The Earps, like it appears ICE troopers, also lacked discipline and were ill trained (actually no training at all, just badges) as law enforcement Marshals.
