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Deporation - Not Just for Spanish people any more

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      So 450 people detained, of which 30 had Visas? That means 420 without? Are we burying lead here?

      The Brad

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        I think that @LuFins-Dad has a good point. Hyundai and LG have to have a lot responsibility for this.

        However, as big of a economic plant this is in Georgia, it could have/should have been handled better.

        And as @jon-nyc says, hate to have any "erosion" in US-ROK relations and have ROK improve things with PRC.

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          https://www.ft.com/content/c677b9aa-2e89-4feb-a56f-f3c8452b3674

          Several people familiar with Korean conglomerates in the US said it was an “open secret” that they and their subcontractors used the B-1 visa, which allows entry to the US for business purposes but does not allow the holder to work for payment, as well as the Electronic System for Travel Authorization (ESTA) system that facilitates short-term business visits.

          and

          A senior South Korean official said the companies had been placed in an “impossible position”, as successive US governments pushed them to invest billions of dollars in reviving American industry while refusing to facilitate short-term working visas for projects to be completed on time.

          “The US government is two-faced,” said Chang Sang-sik, head of research at the Korea International Trade Association. “It is asking Korea to invest more in the US, while treating Korean workers like criminals even when it is well aware that they are needed for these projects to happen.”

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            https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/11/world/asia/south-korea-us-investments-hyundai-raid.html?unlocked_article_code=1.lE8.FmPq.HeCcyvIVEu00&smid=url-share

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              https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/11/world/asia/south-korea-us-investments-hyundai-raid.html?unlocked_article_code=1.lE8.FmPq.HeCcyvIVEu00&smid=url-share

              taiwan_girlT Online
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              @jon-nyc Not surprising.

              I wonder how much something like this will impact the TSCM chip factory in Arizona

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                @jon-nyc said in Deporation - Not Just for Spanish people any more:

                This post of Tabarrok's got appropriately destroyed in the comments. I'm sure he's a generally bright guy, but this is non-serious rhetoric, reflective of no reality.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Maybe the above was a bit "over the top" but not completely unrealistic.

                  Per the ROK president

                  President Lee Jae Myung said on Thursday a U.S. immigration raid resulting in the detention of hundreds of workers at a Hyundai Motor business project could have an impact on U.S. investment decisions made by Korean companies.

                  https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/foreignaffairs/20250911/lee-says-immigration-raid-targeting-korean-workers-could-hit-us-investment

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                    Tabarrok's claim about how "many Americans" would react if a foreign country rounded up a bunch of American illegals, was the absurd part. I acknowledge that prepared remarks from Korea's president might do some light posturing about being a little miffed, but of course that will come to nothing.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      Is our presidents learning?

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                          Matt’s take and a broader point about trying to learn about the Trump administration. (Thread)

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                          • taiwan_girlT Online
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                            @jon-nyc that is true. It just shows how strong a "hold" he has on the Republics. He can change his mind 180 degrees, and the same people who were cheering his previous choice would be just as loud cheering his 180 different choice.

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                              I feel safer. How about you?

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                              • AxtremusA Away
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                                2026 is less than four months away.
                                How big a deal is it in the realm of multi-$billion construction projects?

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                                  About training the American workers... How about sending American workers to South Korea to train there, then bring them back to build the factories in the USA?

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                                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                    About training the American workers... How about sending American workers to South Korea to train there, then bring them back to build the factories in the USA?

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                                    @Axtremus said in Deporation - Not Just for Spanish people any more:

                                    About training the American workers... How about sending American workers to South Korea to train there, then bring them back to build the factories in the USA?

                                    I think part of the "problem" doing something like that is that the most learning experience comes during a factory/plant/refinery startup. Unexpected problems, new equipment, etc.

                                    Training at an already operating plant/factory/refinery, etc is good but leaves a lot behind.

                                    I have a friend who did/does a lot of startup work for oil plants and said that starting up a new plant (6 months to a year) was worth years of experience vs. working in a existing steady state oil plant.

                                    Maybe somewhat analogy to a military doctor in the field in wartime vs. a doctor working in a rural hospital.

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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                      2026 is less than four months away.
                                      How big a deal is it in the realm of multi-$billion construction projects?

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                                      @Axtremus said in Deporation - Not Just for Spanish people any more:

                                      2026 is less than four months away.
                                      How big a deal is it in the realm of multi-$billion construction projects?

                                      Yeah but they didn’t specify what month.

                                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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