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Piano upgrade time

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    Ha

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      @NobodySock said in Piano upgrade time:

      i am sitting outside on a veranda waiting to sit down and eat dinner in Baunei

      Looks like quite a pretty area.

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      @taiwan_girl

      It is an amazing little town set on a steep hillside with a wonderous view of the valley below it. I may find myself repeating something that is apparent, Italians love building stuff on steep hills.

      Link to video

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          I havent totally given up looking for my forever piano here in the states as maybe i walk into a super duper deal that makes the cost of shipping it to italy worth it. Pianomart has. 2024 mason & hamlin BB for sale in mass. Owner claims it has hardly been played and has been serviced only by some guy named mason or hamlin. The list for this beast is $120k and he is selling it for half. What do yall think? I could just have the owner ship it straight to sardinia. The villa sits idle waiting for my january arrival. The main reason i wish to get bigger piano is to have more bass. I think masons are the big deliverers of bass too. They have the thickest rim over any other brands, and it is said they produce a tone comparable to the next size up. For example, it has the power of a steinway D and not its cousin, the B.

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            I think your neighbors are gonna hate you.

            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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              We liked Masons, but they were a little too inconsistent, requiring more upkeep than most of our other options in 2015-16. It’s quite possible that has improved over the past few years.

              The Brad

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                Realplayer has a MH that’s over 10’ long in his living room.

                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  And he's in New York? That IS his living room. probably dining room table too.

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    He’s got a house in Staten Island.

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                      Forget the BB. Check out this deal! Oh my. Could i be the owner of an almost untouched Shigeru 7’6” SK7?? It is the most talked about piano on the internetZ. It also has a built in qrs player with 100,000 song catalog. Not quite as large as my repertoire but some days you just want to lay on the couch and listen. Whaddaya think LD? You, yourself advised the SK7 is “Some Pig”. Hat tip to Charlotte.

                      https://www.pianomart.com/buy-a-piano/view?id=61914

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                        Forget the BB. Check out this deal! Oh my. Could i be the owner of an almost untouched Shigeru 7’6” SK7?? It is the most talked about piano on the internetZ. It also has a built in qrs player with 100,000 song catalog. Not quite as large as my repertoire but some days you just want to lay on the couch and listen. Whaddaya think LD? You, yourself advised the SK7 is “Some Pig”. Hat tip to Charlotte.

                        https://www.pianomart.com/buy-a-piano/view?id=61914

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                        I mispoke about LD’s recommendation here. He was referring to the Yamaha S7X. Anyways, i am now diving deep to get answers on duty in italy. I get to ship my household goods to Italy duty free since i M moving to live there permanently, but there is verbiage that is vague regarding high dollar items they may get hit with the 22% VAT. Need to nail down the real info on this. Regarding shipping cost, i was quoted by one who has given me a quote for all the things i wish to bring, that i would just add $500 bucks for the piano.

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                          I just received correspondence from the BB owner and i wonder if this is the Senstor from Connecticut.

                          Thank you for your inquiry. As a result of high-end impulse buying, I currently own two very fine grands, a fully rebuilt Steinway Model C from 1898 and a virtually new BB. I love them both, but In the long run I have only wanted one large grand in my living room.

                          They are both listed on Pianomart.com, and I will sell one and keep the other. This weekend, a couple who are interested in the BB are flying up from DC, and since they already have their tickets, I feel I owe them first dibs. But if they decide not to buy it or are slow in making a
                          decision, I would be delighted to offer it to you.

                          There are also two separate buyers who are interested in the Steinway and plan to come see it in early September. They are not coming until then because I am leaving on August 17th for two weeks in France.

                          If you would like to have your RPT come look at the BB before I leave, on the chance that the DC couple don't decide to buy it, I imagine that could be arranged. Or you could wait to see what they decide. I can also give you the name and contact number of my technician, who recently retired after 25 years as the head technician at the Mason and Hamlin factory.

                          Richard Blumenthal

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                            This video is 5 years old so the new one on the right is referring to same year piano i am looking at, 2020. Kawai’s carbon fiber action is also something i am very very interested in. Plus, if i do get this piano, a tech from Shigeru will fly out to my home in Sardinia to give it a once over. Pretty sweet deal.

                            Link to video

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                              I don’t think the Kawai techs come out for used Shigerus, only new.

                              The Brad

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                                SK7 is a helluva piano, that’s a 2021. I’m not thrilled with the retrofit system, and if I’m correct, that 100,000 song library becomes 500 in a year. QRS gives you 2 years of full access to their library for 2 years, then they give you the 500 songs you played the most. If you want, you can then go into a subscription service, I believe.

                                The Brad

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                                  That’s not necessarily a great deal though. MSRP is $130, but it’s my experience that you can find them for a lot less. $50K is likely a fair deal but not a great deal.

                                  The Brad

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                                    That’s not necessarily a great deal though. MSRP is $130, but it’s my experience that you can find them for a lot less. $50K is likely a fair deal but not a great deal.

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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Piano upgrade time:

                                    That’s not necessarily a great deal though. MSRP is $130, but it’s my experience that you can find them for a lot less. $50K is likely a fair deal but not a great deal.

                                    How much value is considered for the player attached.

                                    So even though this piano is 2020 but if it is true that the thing has only been played on for 10-20 hours, making it to me pretty near a brand new piano, With a player, 50k is not an extraordinary deal for this shigeru?

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                                      A player system on a used grand piano lowers the resale value. So does a wood finish. (Sorry red piano club!). The higher the level of piano, the more it lowers the value.

                                      The Brad

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                                        The Bosie 225 listed for $50K would have a higher interest for me.

                                        The Brad

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                                          The hours the piano have been played are kind of irrelevant in determining the value (to an extent). What matters is number of owners. You can buy a new car with 1000 demo miles on it and it’s still new. Somebody could order a new car at 0 miles, drive it 500 and resell it, it’s still a used car and if lower value than the new listed above.

                                          Beyond that, the piano likely sat on the floor for 2 years from 21-23 and was demoed and played many times. If it had the system already installed, the. It had even more play. If the customer bought the piano then had the system installed, then less.

                                          The Brad

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