The Iran Nuclear Program thread

[Tom-K]

That would be regime change since the Ayatollahs probably would not take kindly the American Satan moving into their beloved country. And since we've done something similar to a couple countries in the neighborhood without much success we at least should have learned we are not too good at taking over Islamic countries and making them workable. Also, this would mean a pivot away from China--not in our best interest at the moment.

Wishful thinking on the part of the Israelis.

[Mik]

Yeah, the IDF has plenty of commandos.

[Axtremus]

Also, this would mean a pivot away from China--

Yeah, China seems to keep getting lucky in that manner. After the Cold War ended, for a while it looks like the USA will focus on China. Then 9/11 happened.

[kluurs]

Tik Tok had a video allegedly of a crashed F35.

[jon-nyc]

lol

[jon-nyc]

[bachophile]

Hi again. All good. Last night was not so fun but today was calm for the most part.

[Horace]

Trump allegedly halted a plan by Israel to kill the Iran leader. Odd to see this reported as fact in the first paragraph, then in the third paragraph the denials by relevant parties are noted. If this is true, I would think that the leak itself is a big story. But I don't trust it much.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/15/politics/us-military-trump-israel-iran

[jon-nyc]

[jon-nyc]

[Mik]

@bachophile said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

Hi again. All good. Last night was not so fun but today was calm for the most part.

Glad to hear it. Busy at the hospital?

[Mik]

I thought this an interesting op-ed. I thought Bush II should have done it in 2006.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-israelis-are-doing-the-world-a-big-favour/ar-AA1GKZ0n?cmp_prftch=2

[Tom-K]

Israel isn't by itself going to completely knock out Iran's nuclear program. The USA could, not Israel. It may set it back a couple of years but Iran will be back somewhat more strategically located.

What's going on is regnum change.

[bachophile]

@Mik not so much, most wounded went to closer hospitals

[bachophile]

This is pretty cool,

[Tom-K]

And if I were Netanyahu I wouldn't trust Trump any more than Zelensky should. Trump cares about money and China is all about money. Just saying.

[jon-nyc]

[Renauda]

[Tom-K]

@Renauda said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

@jon-nyc

Prescience.

Murray nailed it.

True, it's the pig and chicken teaming up to make a bacon and egg breakfast. Israel (please excuse the analogy) is the pig and the rest of the countries in the middle east are the chickens. Israel is committed to ending a nuclear Iran because sooner or later Iran is going to nuke Israel. The other countries in the region are just involved.

It's gotta be ended. A regium change is the best way--but all out destruction of Iran with the US helping has to be on the table.

[jon-nyc]

He did basically nail it, though Israel is getting public not just private support from the major European countries.