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More COVID-19 Related Deaths

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    Caused by delays in "elective" procedures and testing:

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanonc/article/PIIS1470-2045(20)30388-0/fulltext

    Findings

    We collected data for 32 583 patients with breast cancer, 24 975 with colorectal cancer, 6744 with oesophageal cancer, and 29 305 with lung cancer. Across the three different scenarios, compared with pre-pandemic figures, we estimate a 7·9–9·6% increase in the number of deaths due to breast cancer up to year 5 after diagnosis, corresponding to between 281 (95% CI 266–295) and 344 (329–358) additional deaths. For colorectal cancer, we estimate 1445 (1392–1591) to 1563 (1534–1592) additional deaths, a 15·3–16·6% increase; for lung cancer, 1235 (1220–1254) to 1372 (1343–1401) additional deaths, a 4·8–5·3% increase; and for oesophageal cancer, 330 (324–335) to 342 (336–348) additional deaths, 5·8–6·0% increase up to 5 years after diagnosis. For these four tumour types, these data correspond with 3291–3621 additional deaths across the scenarios within 5 years. The total additional YLLs across these cancers is estimated to be 59 204–63 229 years.

    Interpretation

    Substantial increases in the number of avoidable cancer deaths in England are to be expected as a result of diagnostic delays due to the COVID-19 pandemic in the UK. Urgent policy interventions are necessary, particularly the need to manage the backlog within routine diagnostic services to mitigate the expected impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on patients with cancer.

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      Loki
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      Yeah you should go to the doctor. I know many who are practicing and many clinicians in hospitals and haven’t heard of one that contracted Covid. It’s a different story with friends.

      The uptick however doesn’t offset Covid deaths, small numbers comparatively.

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        LuFins Dad
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        Will my heart attack due to the 20 lbs I gained during lockdown count as COVID related?

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          Will my heart attack due to the 20 lbs I gained during lockdown count as COVID related?

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          Loki
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          @LuFins-Dad said in More COVID-19 Related Deaths:

          Will my heart attack due to the 20 lbs I gained during lockdown count as COVID related?

          Actually there would be a really good argument for that. We already know of enormous mental health issues and physical issues count as well up to and including death.

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            @LuFins-Dad said in More COVID-19 Related Deaths:

            Will my heart attack due to the 20 lbs I gained during lockdown count as COVID related?

            Actually there would be a really good argument for that. We already know of enormous mental health issues and physical issues count as well up to and including death.

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            Aqua Letifer
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            @Loki said in More COVID-19 Related Deaths:

            @LuFins-Dad said in More COVID-19 Related Deaths:

            Will my heart attack due to the 20 lbs I gained during lockdown count as COVID related?

            Actually there would be a really good argument for that. We already know of enormous mental health issues and physical issues count as well up to and including death.

            There's a lot people could do about both, though.

            Please love yourself.

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            • L Loki

              Yeah you should go to the doctor. I know many who are practicing and many clinicians in hospitals and haven’t heard of one that contracted Covid. It’s a different story with friends.

              The uptick however doesn’t offset Covid deaths, small numbers comparatively.

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              Jolly
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              @Loki said in More COVID-19 Related Deaths:

              Yeah you should go to the doctor. I know many who are practicing and many clinicians in hospitals and haven’t heard of one that contracted Covid. It’s a different story with friends.

              The uptick however doesn’t offset Covid deaths, small numbers comparatively.

              I know several aides, nurses and doctors who have had COVID, including a couple of deaths.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @Loki said in More COVID-19 Related Deaths:

                Yeah you should go to the doctor. I know many who are practicing and many clinicians in hospitals and haven’t heard of one that contracted Covid. It’s a different story with friends.

                The uptick however doesn’t offset Covid deaths, small numbers comparatively.

                I know several aides, nurses and doctors who have had COVID, including a couple of deaths.

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                @Jolly said in More COVID-19 Related Deaths:

                @Loki said in More COVID-19 Related Deaths:

                Yeah you should go to the doctor. I know many who are practicing and many clinicians in hospitals and haven’t heard of one that contracted Covid. It’s a different story with friends.

                The uptick however doesn’t offset Covid deaths, small numbers comparatively.

                I know several aides, nurses and doctors who have had COVID, including a couple of deaths.

                Comorbidities?

                Please love yourself.

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                  Jolly
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                  Some do, some don't.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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