The Ukraine war thread

[Renauda]

T. E. Lawrence’s ghost smiled again:

Two railway bridges collapsed just hours apart in separate regions of Russia, killing at least seven people and injuring dozens. One of the incidents is being investigated as possible sabotage, according to officials.

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/53734

[Wim]

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[Wim]

Did something wrong and now I can't undo inserting the comic above...

[Mik]

POSSIBLE sabotage?

[taiwan_girl]

Another couple video of the drone attack on the airplanes. In the first one, you can see tires on the wings of the airplane to try and disguise them from drones.

Link to video

Link to video

Also quite interesting how the raid was done.

it involved more than a year and a half of planning and was "extremely complex from a logistical point of view."

The SBU transported numerous small first-person-view (FPV) drones to Russia, along with what looked like wooden shipping crates. Once all the pieces were in the country, the drones were hidden in the crates, which were placed on trucks. On Sunday, the tops of the crates were remotely opened, and the drones flew out.

[Mik]

Maybe the Russian top brass needs new pagers. I hear there's a European country offering them at a great price.

[Renauda]

You can assured that there’s not a container or freight trailer in Russia that is not about to be thoroughly inspected. No telling how many more $450 drones the Ukrainians have ferreted away and hibernating on Russian territory.

[jon-nyc]

I had read about what TG posted. I wonder what the source is. It’s not obviously in Ukraine’s interest to tell the Orcs how they pulled it off. It’s possible this explanation is a plant to get them to slow their logistics to a crawl for a few weeks while they open every container.

[Renauda]

Am sure there is a rationale behind disclosing the execution of the op. You may be right given that the Russians are massing troops along the Kharkiv front. Anything the impedes or interdicts the logistics of that build up, is tactically sound in order to prepare defensive operations against a massed attack along one or more salients.

[Renauda]

As a local Ukrainian patriot and friend going back many years, told me this morning: “Thanks to Ukraine overnight, NORAD’s job today just got a bit easier.”

[Wim]

According to Zelenski the operation had 117 pilots each steering one drone. The operation was organised near an FSB-centre.

This is like peeing on a bully's leg and asking if that was warm enough

[jon-nyc]

[Mik]

I suspect that smuggling things into Russia is pretty easy due to rampant corruption.

[Mik]

[Mik]

This was a sobering read this morning.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-is-grinding-down-ukraine-to-victory-right-before-our-eyes/ar-AA1FVBCz

[Renauda]

Latham, like others in the Realist school of thought never disappoint in their pessimistic view of geopolitics. He at least never seems fixated on laying blame for conflict on the US and West. Rather he just comes across as defeatist. That being said, his assessment of the facts on ground are compelling despite offering little in the way of how to contain the Kremlin once it reaches its stated (and as yet, only assumed and/or undisclosed) objectives in this particular war. I remain firmly unconvinced that Putin does not have far more imperial objectives on his menu than Latham believes.

[jon-nyc]

@jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

It’s possible this explanation is a plant to get them to slow their logistics to a crawl for a few weeks while they open every container.

[jon-nyc]

I agree with Reanuda that this could be a happy byproduct rather than the goal of the announcement.

[jon-nyc]

My god.

[Mik]

When did NATO attack Russia? The planes? meh.