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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    A compilation of relatively alarming conversational snippets with people in or near the business - Altman, Gates, Cowen, the founder of DeepMind, etc.

    I’m not a video watcher but this is worth your 10m.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • AxtremusA Offline
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      Don't worry, just let AI solve the problems.

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      • MikM Offline
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        AI has made my work far more efficient.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          The biggest questions in my mind are (putting aside apocalyptic stuff):

          1. In a post-work world, what form will status competition among human primates take? Relatedly, what will replace employment as a provider of dignity?

          2. How disruptive politically and socially will the transition be?

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • HoraceH Offline
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            On the bright side, both sides of the political aisle are clearly ok with wealth redistribution. That redistribution will become a necessity as profits concentrate in businesses with few employees.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • MikM Mik

              AI has made my work far more efficient.

              LuFins DadL Offline
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              @Mik said in The impact of AI on jobs:

              AI has made my work far more efficient.

              May I ask how you use it?

              The Brad

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                1. What AI subscriptions you (or members of your household) have, how prestigious are the models in your AI subscriptions. Left-leaning politicians will talk about government subsidized equitable AI subscriptions for all. Right-leaning politicians will talk about “vouchers” to let individuals choose AI subscriptions that they may not be able to afford on their own. The welfare units or voucher values bantered about maybe argued in terms of “tokens,” FLOPS, Watt-hours, or some yet to be defined AI units.

                2. Can’t answer yet. Need to figure out a way (even a metric, a “unit”) to measure/quantify “disruptiveness” first. Doesn’t seem like the sociologists, anthropologists, historians, economists have come up with a commonly recognized one yet.

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  @Mik said in The impact of AI on jobs:

                  AI has made my work far more efficient.

                  May I ask how you use it?

                  MikM Offline
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                  #8

                  @LuFins-Dad skillfully.

                  But seriously, tech documentation has been woefully lacking for decades in terms of actually telling you how to do what you need to do or what a particular error might mean. AI is fantastic at it and puts it into clear, easily understood language. Even Epic software technology is accessible, despite Epic’s overt efforts to prevent their stuff from being absorbed.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    I don’t pay for it.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      The only real use I've found for AI was in putting together comments for people's performance reviews, I task I absolutely loathe, and which makes me miserable every first quarter.

                      I would probably prefer it if I could be brutally honest, but it would destroy the morale of half the team for months, and I'm also quite conflict averse in real life.

                      So, I have my monkey butler write them for me.

                      I was only joking

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        I use it all the time and it saves me hours.

                        Recent example - I’m now on the Finance committee of the American Thoracic Society. They’re overly dependent on revenues from their one huge annual conference in May, which really hit home when they had to cancel it during the pandemic.

                        So I asked ChatGPT to develop a list of similar organizations for other specialties, read their IRS form 990s, and see what other revenue sources they have besides membership dues and conference revenues.

                        That would have taken me all day, the answer came back in less than a minute. Of course before I make use of it I’d spot check some of the data, but all in all a time saver.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          Holy crap, that is frigging handy.

                          The Brad

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                            Do you have a paid account?

                            The Brad

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                            • jon-nycJ Online
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                              #14

                              I do pay the 20/month for ChatGPt. But it wouldn’t surprise me if the free versions could do a form of that.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                I asked chatgpt about some coding stuff, just to test the waters. It eventually asked me what I was working on, and I got cheeky and remembered Pinky and the Brain. I paraphrased what I remembered the mouse saying every episode.

                                Let me know what you’re working on — I can help right now!

                                You said:
                                I am working on the same thing I work on every day. Planning to rule the world.

                                ChatGPT responded:

                                Ah, just like Pinky and the Brain! 😄

                                In that case, you’ll need:

                                Python for automating your evil lair operations, machine learning for predictive world domination strategies, and maybe some deepfake generation for diplomatic interference.

                                C# for building your sleek desktop control panels and surveillance systems with smooth WPF UIs.

                                ChatGPT-4o to write, debug, and optimize all that code while also giving you moral support when your minions fail you… again.

                                Whenever you’re ready to deploy your nefarious code, just let me know. I’m here to help you rule the world — one semicolon at a time. 🧠🌍💻

                                That's impressive.

                                Also impressive that the copy/paste to this forum, managed to include the emoticons correctly.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Man this stuff is just amazing. I told ChatGPT I was practicing the beginning of hte third section of Chopin nocturne opus 48#1, and that I was practicing the 4 vs 3, and this is how it turned out:

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                                  I wonder if it trains itself, and maybe the next time someone asks that question, it will be more likely to provide the second grid first.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    That was the same impression I've had since I started using it - coherent and very, very useful.

                                    I was going to say amazing, but I detest that lazy-ass word.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      That was the same impression I've had since I started using it - coherent and very, very useful.

                                      I was going to say amazing, but I detest that lazy-ass word.

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                                      @Mik said in The impact of AI on jobs:

                                      That was the same impression I've had since I started using it - coherent and very, very useful.

                                      I was going to say amazing, but I detest that lazy-ass word.

                                      Reminds me of a style of thread that I used to detest on the internet, and which has mostly died out. The "words and phrases you hate" style discussions, where everybody chips in with their arbitrary pet peeves about commonly used language. "At the end of the day", "ultimately", "folks", "amazing", who knows what might make an appearance on people's hit lists.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • MikM Offline
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                                        Gosh, we have such synergy.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          That's awesome!

                                          I was only joking

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