Cavity search and deportation of a US Soldier’s wife
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Maybe a nave attitude by myself, but I have never felt worried about entering or leaving the US, even since January.
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This is one side of the story, and as reported, it has nothing to do with any official policy of the US government. If factual, then at worst, one can weave a narrative of an emboldened immigration officer at the airport, going rogue and completely mad.
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This is one side of the story, and as reported, it has nothing to do with any official policy of the US government. If factual, then at worst, one can weave a narrative of an emboldened immigration officer at the airport, going rogue and completely mad.
@Horace said in Cavity search and deportation of a US Soldier’s wife:
If factual, then at worst, one can weave a narrative of an emboldened immigration officer at the airport, going rogue and completely mad.
Nah … you’d figure that would be multiple reviews and approvals by supervisors and supervisors of supervisors before a visitor is put on a return flight. You can argue whether it’s a large systemic issue or small systemic breakdown, but not the doing of one rogue agent.
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So… No body cavity search jokes? This place IS sick…
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I used to have to go through 'special processing' before I had a green card, and we shared the room with some interesting people - there was a German girl with a wedding dress in her suitcase who had previously said she was coming here on vacation and then seemed to suddenly lose her English language skills, and another bloke with a suitcase absolutely full of running shoes who also no speekee da lingo when questioned. I'm guessing the very pretty foreign national married to an American citizen is going to ring an alarm bell.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Cavity search and deportation of a US Soldier’s wife:
I used to have to go through 'special processing' before I had a green card, and we shared the room with some interesting people - there was a German girl with a wedding dress in her suitcase who had previously said she was coming here on vacation and then seemed to suddenly lose her English language skills, and another bloke with a suitcase absolutely full of running shoes who also no speekee da lingo when questioned. I'm guessing the very pretty foreign national married to an American citizen is going to ring an alarm bell.
And what exactly did you have in your bag that they detained you? You can speak freely, you are among friends.
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@Horace said in Cavity search and deportation of a US Soldier’s wife:
If factual, then at worst, one can weave a narrative of an emboldened immigration officer at the airport, going rogue and completely mad.
Nah … you’d figure that would be multiple reviews and approvals by supervisors and supervisors of supervisors before a visitor is put on a return flight. You can argue whether it’s a large systemic issue or small systemic breakdown, but not the doing of one rogue agent.
@Axtremus said in Cavity search and deportation of a US Soldier’s wife:
@Horace said in Cavity search and deportation of a US Soldier’s wife:
If factual, then at worst, one can weave a narrative of an emboldened immigration officer at the airport, going rogue and completely mad.
Nah … you’d figure that would be multiple reviews and approvals by supervisors and supervisors of supervisors before a visitor is put on a return flight. You can argue whether it’s a large systemic issue or small systemic breakdown, but not the doing of one rogue agent.
How many entries have there been even at that airport, and how many of these anecdotes do we have? How systemic do you suppose it could possibly be?
Education is extremely important.
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There is also the matter of her mother, who was traveling with her, being allowed through. Odd for a broken authoritarian system to be so selectively broken.
If I had to guess, my guess is that she got belligerent, and was denied entry based on that. I don't know, who here thinks that if you cop an attitude with the immigration enforcement in any airport in any country, that you'll get through? Seems like a big gamble.
I guess we will get a response and some video at some point. Maybe it really was a matter of an immigration cop just hating her randomly. But I'll be surprised if this telling of events is fair.
The official checking their passports “went from completely composed to just yelling at the top of his lungs, telling my mother to go stand at the back of the line and to excuse my language, ‘shut up,’” Saroukos recalled.
“So I automatically started crying because that was my first response,” she said.
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Some of the discussion I've seen about this is about how the immigration officer must have seen the tattoos and made assumptions. The assumption I make is that a person who wears those sorts of tattoos proudly is probably comfortable with various public displays of emotion, including but not limited to self-righteous outrage if they think someone is not being fair with them.
But we can't judge based on tattoos. Even though people get visible tattoos in order that people see them and think thoughts about them. The observer then must willingly become prisoner to holding only the correct sorts of thoughts. Nice thoughts. Positive thoughts. That's the price you pay for looking at someone who wants desperately for you to look at them and think about them.
Now I've talked myself into hating this woman.
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@Axtremus said in Cavity search and deportation of a US Soldier’s wife:
@Horace said in Cavity search and deportation of a US Soldier’s wife:
If factual, then at worst, one can weave a narrative of an emboldened immigration officer at the airport, going rogue and completely mad.
Nah … you’d figure that would be multiple reviews and approvals by supervisors and supervisors of supervisors before a visitor is put on a return flight. You can argue whether it’s a large systemic issue or small systemic breakdown, but not the doing of one rogue agent.
How many entries have there been even at that airport, and how many of these anecdotes do we have? How systemic do you suppose it could possibly be?
@Horace said in Cavity search and deportation of a US Soldier’s wife:
@Axtremus said in Cavity search and deportation of a US Soldier’s wife:
@Horace said in Cavity search and deportation of a US Soldier’s wife:
If factual, then at worst, one can weave a narrative of an emboldened immigration officer at the airport, going rogue and completely mad.
Nah … you’d figure that would be multiple reviews and approvals by supervisors and supervisors of supervisors before a visitor is put on a return flight. You can argue whether it’s a large systemic issue or small systemic breakdown, but not the doing of one rogue agent.
How many entries have there been even at that airport, and how many of these anecdotes do we have? How systemic do you suppose it could possibly be?
My other anecdote was while waiting in line in Boston, a middle-aged Indian woman who was being interviewed absolutely and totally lost it, and became completely hysterical. Eventually she had to be restrained and escorted out by a bunch of immigration officials. As we were riding the elevator down, one of the people who'd been interviewing her turned to us and said 'All we did was tell her she couldn't have an aisle seat'. I'm afraid I LOL'd.
