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The Great Toilet Paper Shortage of 2020 wasn’t as irrational as we thought.

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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    Get a bidet!!!! Never realized how nice they were until I got one. Hard to go back!

    Plus, you use quite a bit less toilet paper

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    @taiwan_girl said in The Great Toilet Paper Shortage of 2020 wasn’t as irrational as we thought.:

    Get a bidet!!!! Never realized how nice they were until I got one. Hard to go back!

    Plus, you use quite a bit less toilet paper

    I have a story about a bidet from when I first visited France in the mid 70’s. I had no idea what it was. I thought was for washing my feet. My German girlfriend told me otherwise.

    When we visited Vienna in 2012, my then five year old son was impressed as hell with our hotel room. After a quick inspection of the bathroom he commented that the room “even had a special toilet for kids”.

    Elbows up!

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      Lol.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        In Taiwan, probably a big majority of toilets, even in public places are of the "squat pot" type, though they are becoming a bit less common. In a public urinal place that does not really cater to Westerners, there may be five toilets, four of them will be squat pots.

        something like below

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        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

          In Taiwan, probably a big majority of toilets, even in public places are of the "squat pot" type, though they are becoming a bit less common. In a public urinal place that does not really cater to Westerners, there may be five toilets, four of them will be squat pots.

          something like below

          alt text

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          Renauda
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          @taiwan_girl

          Soviet “bomb sight” toilets were “medieval” in comparison to the photo you linked. I’ll leave at the word “medieval”.

          Elbows up!

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          • RenaudaR Renauda

            @taiwan_girl

            Soviet “bomb sight” toilets were “medieval” in comparison to the photo you linked. I’ll leave at the word “medieval”.

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            @Renauda 555

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              I haven't used toilet paper since,,,, oh shit, since 3 days ago at the last hotel I stayed in in Sardinia. It was an agritourismo and they had no bidet (the sacrilege!!!). They also had gas station type of toilet paper from a dispenser. Ugh. No really, I installed bidet's onto my toilets couple years back and there is no turning back nor need for paper to clean my better half.

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                I resist using our sprayer because the water is too cold.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  I resist using our sprayer because the water is too cold.

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                  @jon-nyc said in The Great Toilet Paper Shortage of 2020 wasn’t as irrational as we thought.:

                  I resist using our sprayer because the water is too cold.

                  Said every woman everywhere.

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                    jon-nyc
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                    Except mine.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                    • N NobodySock

                      I haven't used toilet paper since,,,, oh shit, since 3 days ago at the last hotel I stayed in in Sardinia. It was an agritourismo and they had no bidet (the sacrilege!!!). They also had gas station type of toilet paper from a dispenser. Ugh. No really, I installed bidet's onto my toilets couple years back and there is no turning back nor need for paper to clean my better half.

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                      @NobodySock said in The Great Toilet Paper Shortage of 2020 wasn’t as irrational as we thought.:

                      I installed bidet's onto my toilets couple years back and there is no turning back

                      Yep

                      @jon-nyc said in The Great Toilet Paper Shortage of 2020 wasn’t as irrational as we thought.:

                      I resist using our sprayer because the water is too cold.

                      That is why you get the toilet seat one. The one I have has "instant" never ending hot water. LOL

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        @NobodySock said in The Great Toilet Paper Shortage of 2020 wasn’t as irrational as we thought.:

                        I installed bidet's onto my toilets couple years back and there is no turning back

                        Yep

                        @jon-nyc said in The Great Toilet Paper Shortage of 2020 wasn’t as irrational as we thought.:

                        I resist using our sprayer because the water is too cold.

                        That is why you get the toilet seat one. The one I have has "instant" never ending hot water. LOL

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                        @taiwan_girl said in The Great Toilet Paper Shortage of 2020 wasn’t as irrational as we thought.:

                        @NobodySock said in The Great Toilet Paper Shortage of 2020 wasn’t as irrational as we thought.:

                        I installed bidet's onto my toilets couple years back and there is no turning back

                        Yep

                        @jon-nyc said in The Great Toilet Paper Shortage of 2020 wasn’t as irrational as we thought.:

                        I resist using our sprayer because the water is too cold.

                        That is why you get the toilet seat one. The one I have has "instant" never ending hot water. LOL

                        Some of us run a hot engine in life and cold water spikes my dopamine, among other umentionables. I feel so clean after that i want to show people

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @taiwan_girl said in The Great Toilet Paper Shortage of 2020 wasn’t as irrational as we thought.:

                          Get a bidet!!!! Never realized how nice they were until I got one. Hard to go back!

                          Plus, you use quite a bit less toilet paper

                          Mark was evangelizing them at the time. I ended up getting a poor man’s bidet (sprayer attached to toilet) as Mayla prefers them.

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                          @jon-nyc said in The Great Toilet Paper Shortage of 2020 wasn’t as irrational as we thought.:

                          @taiwan_girl said in The Great Toilet Paper Shortage of 2020 wasn’t as irrational as we thought.:

                          Get a bidet!!!! Never realized how nice they were until I got one. Hard to go back!

                          Plus, you use quite a bit less toilet paper

                          Mark was evangelizing them at the time. I ended up getting a poor man’s bidet (sprayer attached to toilet) as Mayla prefers them.

                          I still do! We went Bidet back in 2017 or so. I was laughing at all the toilet paper hoarders. I hate pooping without a bidet.

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                            TMI…

                            The Brad

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                              Mark do you have a setup that warms the water?

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                                I am not Mark, LOL, but you can get them (like the Toto Washlet) that is like a tankless water heater.

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                                  We have 5 Bidets in the house. Some have hot water connections, and some do not. I don't care one way or the other.

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                                    Who the F are you people!!!!!??? I have 4 regular toilets. (Ok, water savers. But just TOILETS.)

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                                    • Tom-KT Tom-K

                                      Who the F are you people!!!!!??? I have 4 regular toilets. (Ok, water savers. But just TOILETS.)

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                                      @Tom-K said in The Great Toilet Paper Shortage of 2020 wasn’t as irrational as we thought.:

                                      Who the F are you people!!!!!??? I have 4 regular toilets. (Ok, water savers. But just TOILETS.)

                                      You are someone who has not joined the "Bidet Cult". Once you join, you never want to leave!!! 555

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                                        Toilet firm flush with sales

                                        Report: Over 40% of updates by US homeowners installed bidets with special features

                                        By River Akira Davis and Kiuko Notoya The New York Times

                                        KITAKYUSHU, Japan — In 1982, a peculiar commercial aired on televisions across Japan.
                                        An actress in a pink floral dress and an updo drops paint on her hand and futilely attempts to wipe it off with toilet paper. She looks into the camera and asks: “Everyone, if your hands get dirty, you wash them, right?”
                                        “It’s the same for your bottom,” she says. “Bottoms deserve to be washed too.”
                                        The commercial was advertising the Washlet, a new type of toilet seat with a then-unheard-of function: a small wand that extended from the back of the rim and sprayed water up. After the ad’s release, Toto, the Washlet’s maker, was deluged with calls and letters from viewers shocked by the concept. They were also angry that it was broadcast during evening prime time, when many were having dinner.
                                        Four decades later, Japan has overwhelmingly accepted Toto’s innovation. Washlet-style bidets, sold by Toto and a few smaller rivals, are a common feature in Japan’s offices and public restrooms and account for more than 80% of all household toilets, according to government surveys.
                                        Toto now sees a similar shift emerging in the United States.
                                        After decades of trying to persuade leery American consumers of the merits of bidets, Toto Washlets have become something of a social phenomenon — popping up on social media tours of five-star hotels and celebrity homes. Comedian Ali Wong devoted a segment of her 2024 Netflix special to Toto’s “magical Japanese toilet.” In 2022, rapper Drake gifted four Totos to artist DJ Khaled.
                                        An industry report last year showed that more than 2 in 5 renovating homeowners in the United States are choosing to install toilets with specialty features, including bidet toilet seats. Toto’s profits in its Americas housing equipment business have grown more than eightfold over the past five years — and the company has its sights on expanding even more.
                                        “I could have never imagined how popular Washlets would become overseas,” said Shinya Tamura, Toto’s president. But as was the case with Washlets in Japan, “once the fire is lit, they tend to hit a J curve,” he said.
                                        The Toto Washlet first appeared in 1980. At the time, the product had three primary functions: washing, drying and a heated seat. It was expensive, costing the equivalent of about $2,000 in today’s currency, and early models were known to sometimes spray inspectors in the face.
                                        The Japanese public was slow to warm to the devices. It took Toto 18 years to sell its first 10 million Washlets.
                                        But Toto added features — deodorizing in 1992 and automatic flushing and lid opening in 2003 — and sales picked up.
                                        In current models, the water spray is kept at a precise 100.4 degrees Fahrenheit, a temperature the company describes as “warm but not surprising.”
                                        The company saw a big shift in sales when the COVID-19 pandemic started in 2020. During nationwide lockdowns, Americans struggling to get toilet paper began flocking to Washlets. In 2020, Toto Washlet sales in North America nearly doubled from the year prior. That boom has carried forward, Tamura said.
                                        Toto has also benefited from tourists to Japan becoming converts.

                                        Below is the commercial that is referenced in the above article.

                                        Link to video

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