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TikTok Redux - 75 days is almost up

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 30 Mar 2025, 15:10 last edited by
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    I'm guessing this becomes a big topic again this week, barring another NatSec own-goal.

    I think next Saturday is 75 days, which is the amount of time Trump halted enforcement of the TikTok divestment law.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      kluurs
      wrote on 30 Mar 2025, 23:21 last edited by
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      Best guess is that Trump will move do another extension. A fair number of the bigger influencers have been moving from Tik Tok to other platforms - and encouraging their followers as well. Some of it has to do with an increased unhappiness with Tik Tok deleting posts for what are perceived as silly reasons - but can be related to the algorithm being updated with new words to search for and call attention to. Most of the big influencers have more than one platform. Still, there are a plethora of people making a living - or at least having as a side gig - income generating opportunities on Tik Tok that aren't so easy to secure elsewhere.

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        kluurs
        wrote on 30 Mar 2025, 23:21 last edited by
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        Long term - people are guessing Oracle might purchase Tik Tok.

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          kluurs
          wrote on 1 Apr 2025, 23:13 last edited by
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          Mark Cuban dropped his new Skynet Skylight app today as an alternative to Tik Tok. It is in beta mode and lacks some of the features of Tik Tok - but it also permits people to use such triggering words as "kill" as opposed to "unaliving". The content is neither as youthful (teens dancing videos) or instructional (oil industry news) so far - but we'll see where it is in a week.

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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on 11 Apr 2025, 14:16 last edited by taiwan_girl 4 Nov 2025, 14:16
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            As you guys predicted, TikTok was given another 75 day extension. I did not closely read the law, but at what point would there not be allowed any more extensions?

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 11 Apr 2025, 14:24 last edited by
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              The law provides for a one time 90 day extension if a deal is in the works.

              Trump didn’t invoke that, he just said, twice now, that he’s not going to enforce it for 75 days. This is arguably in violation of the so called ‘take care’ clause of the constitution but someone with standing would probably have to sue him to stop it. I’m not sure who besides Congress has such standing. Maybe a TikTok competitor? I don’t know.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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                jon-nyc
                wrote 4 days ago last edited by
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                TRUMP TO EXTEND TIKTOK SALE DEADLINE FOR ANOTHER 90 DAYS: WSJ

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  4 days ago

                  TRUMP TO EXTEND TIKTOK SALE DEADLINE FOR ANOTHER 90 DAYS: WSJ

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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote 3 days ago last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in TikTok Redux - 75 days is almost up:

                  TRUMP TO EXTEND TIKTOK SALE DEADLINE FOR ANOTHER 90 DAYS: WSJ

                  I am not surprised.

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote a day ago last edited by
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                    And its official

                    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/06/further-extending-the-tiktok-enforcement-delay/

                    Section 1. Extension. (a) The enforcement delay specified in section 2(a) of Executive Order 14166 of January 20, 2025 (Application of Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act to TikTok), as extended by Executive Order 14258 of April 4, 2025 (Extending the TikTok Enforcement Delay), is further extended until September 17, 2025. During this period, the Department of Justice shall take no action to enforce the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act (the “Act”) (Public Law 118-50, Div. H) or impose any penalties against any entity for any noncompliance with the Act, including for distributing, maintaining, or updating (or enabling the distribution, maintenance, or updating) of any foreign adversary controlled application as defined in the Act. In light of this direction, even after the expiration of the above-specified period, the Department of Justice shall not take any action to enforce the Act or impose any penalties against any entity for any conduct that occurred during the above-specified period or any period prior to the issuance of this order, including the period of time from January 19, 2025, until the date of this order.
                    (b) The Attorney General shall take all appropriate action to issue written guidance to implement the provisions of subsection (a) of this section.
                    (c) The Attorney General shall further issue a letter to each provider stating that there has been no violation of the statute and that there is no liability for any conduct that occurred during the above-specified period, as well as for any conduct from the effective date of the Act until the date of this order.
                    (d) Because of the national security interests at stake and because section 2(d) of the Act vests authority for investigations and enforcement of the Act only in the Attorney General, attempted enforcement by the States or private parties represents an encroachment on the powers of the Executive. The Attorney General shall exercise all available authority to preserve and defend the Executive’s exclusive authority to enforce the Act.
                    Sec. 2. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:
                    (i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or
                    (ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.
                    (b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.
                    (c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
                    (d) The costs for publication of this order shall be borne by the Department of Justice.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote a day ago last edited by
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                      This is totally lawless and easily impeachable. I don’t even know what a counter argument would look like.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote a day ago last edited by
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                        Has not been challenge by anyone yet (the executive orders that keep extending the deadline). Somewhat surprised by that.

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                          a day ago

                          This is totally lawless and easily impeachable. I don’t even know what a counter argument would look like.

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                          kluurs
                          wrote about 19 hours ago last edited by
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                          @jon-nyc

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