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  • kluursK Offline
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    kluurs
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    #445

    Dreadful Poet Society....

    I shot an arrow into the air,
    where it lands, I know not where...
    But rest assured if there be good in where it lands,
    DJT will claim it was because of his command.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      #446

      Ok, y'all can now officially abandon all hope...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        #447

        I have a bad feeling about Monday as well.

        Education is extremely important.

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          Renauda
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          #448

          See what happens Sunday evening when the Asian markets open Monday morning. That will set the ball in motion.

          Elbows up!

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          • HoraceH Horace

            I have a bad feeling about Monday as well.

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            #449

            @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

            I have a bad feeling about Monday as well.

            Hold…

            The Brad

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              #450

              I've been worried about the non-tariff retaliations myself. I can see countries saying - we're done with google, meta and amazon. Not allowed here.

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                #451

                EU will be targeting X

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • X xenon

                  I've been worried about the non-tariff retaliations myself. I can see countries saying - we're done with google, meta and amazon. Not allowed here.

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                  @xenon said in Trumpenomics:

                  I've been worried about the non-tariff retaliations myself. I can see countries saying - we're done with google, meta and amazon. Not allowed here.

                  BC is still pondering whether to toll US truck transport using provincial highways and roads en route to Alaska. It has had to rewrite - for good reason, I might add - much of the legislation it had drafted two weeks ago that among other retaliatory measures, would have to enabled BC to levy tolls on all US commercial vehicles using BC roadways to Alaska.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    I'm just sitting back, enjoying the show.

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                    @Jolly said in Trumpenomics:

                    I'm just sitting back, enjoying the show.

                    It's a complete shitshow.
                    It's going to create severe hardship for millions, people with no savings, living on the breadline, dependent on jobs which will now vanish. Anyone sitting back enjoying this shitshow is a shit.

                    You mentioned Larry, the piano expert and nasty bigot who wanted to round up all Arabs in America and send them all to the middle east. I doubt he would be sitting back enjoying the show.
                    May he RIP.

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
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                      #454

                      This is starting to feel a lot like the 2008 panic and the 2020 COVID panic. I kinda think there is more than a bit of overreaction to this.

                      I think I’ve been blunt, I despise American Labor Unions. I think that they served a needed and valuable function 80 years ago, but are no longer needed, and have actually harmed American manufacturing extensively over the past 50 years. I also despise protectionist policies that go hand-in-hand with Union goals.

                      That being said, the response seems over the top. A little too much overreaction. Personally, I’ll tighten the belt a little (very glad the last tuition check has been cashed for Lucas) and will invest a little more aggressively over the next few weeks…

                      The Brad

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                        #455

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          A look into an American small town where the people still large support Trump, tariffs and all:

                          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr4nr3230e7o

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                            @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                            🤷

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                              Many if not most non-US customers will have retaliatory tariffs on the US not on Europe. Also most of the major aircraft leasing companies ones are in Europe. Ireland specifically.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                Many if not most non-US customers will have retaliatory tariffs on the US not on Europe. Also most of the major aircraft leasing companies ones are in Europe. Ireland specifically.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                                Many if not most non-US customers will have retaliatory tariffs on the US not on Europe. Also most of the major aircraft leasing companies ones are in Europe. Ireland specifically.

                                Where there is reciprocal tariffs, US buyers pay the tariffs that Boeing paid to import the parts, and European buyers pay the tariffs to import the entire Boeing aircraft; but European buyers would not pay tariffs on Airbus aircraft, thus it advantages aircraft in the European market. Is that right?

                                I guess the remaining work would be to untangle what tariffs, on either side of the Atlantic, that have existed for aircraft and aircraft parts before Trump imposed this later tariffs regime. 🤷

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                                  The Wall Street Journal reports that Trump tariffs will add 60% to the cost of the iphone in the USA vs its price in Canada.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    @Jolly said in Trumpenomics:

                                    I'm just sitting back, enjoying the show.

                                    It's a complete shitshow.
                                    It's going to create severe hardship for millions, people with no savings, living on the breadline, dependent on jobs which will now vanish. Anyone sitting back enjoying this shitshow is a shit.

                                    You mentioned Larry, the piano expert and nasty bigot who wanted to round up all Arabs in America and send them all to the middle east. I doubt he would be sitting back enjoying the show.
                                    May he RIP.

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                                    @AndyD said in Trumpenomics:

                                    @Jolly said in Trumpenomics:

                                    I'm just sitting back, enjoying the show.

                                    It's a complete shitshow.
                                    It's going to create severe hardship for millions, people with no savings, living on the breadline, dependent on jobs which will now vanish. Anyone sitting back enjoying this shitshow is a shit.

                                    You mentioned Larry, the piano expert and nasty bigot who wanted to round up all Arabs in America and send them all to the middle east. I doubt he would be sitting back enjoying the show.
                                    May he RIP.

                                    World ends Monday.

                                    Women and children to suffer most.

                                    I still like ol' Larry. And I still think you're an opportunistic pissant.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Foreign trade is basically an 80/20 issue, in favor of its benefits to America. I think this issue will move votes more than most issues, if people see their retirements crash, and stay crashed.

                                      https://news.gallup.com/poll/657581/americans-foreign-policy-priorities-nato-support-unchanged.aspx

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                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • kluursK Offline
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                                        kluurs
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                                        Spending some time looking through comments on Social Media, a lot of folks really don't understand what's about to happen. They're quite sanguine about tariffs as in "they'll not affect me" or "I don't have a 401K" or "I buy AMERICAN - so what's the problem?" "Trump is playing chess while those stupid economists are playing checkers...haha!"

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                                          #464

                                          Nobody with no skin in the game should care, any more than a renter would care if home prices cratered. They actually benefit from that, and that's understandable. But I figure that the net movement of votes due to a crash like this would be from Republican to Democrat, sharply so.

                                          Not to mention that the crash is just a forward indicator of corporate profit destruction, which will necessarily destroy jobs.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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